Big Al & CJ react to Colorado’s brutal 53–7 loss at Utah — calling it the worst defeat of Deion Sanders’ CU tenure and breaking down what went wrong coming off a bye week. Then they pivot to the Broncos’ dominant 44–24 win over the Cowboys, where Bo Nix looked every bit like a veteran QB and the young rookies — RJ Harvey, Pat Bryant, and Jahdae Barron — delivered breakout performances. The guys debate whether Denver belongs among the NFL’s top 6–7 teams, how the defense has become elite, and how the injury to Pat Surtain could change the equation.
In this episode of The Big Al & CJ Podcast, the guys break down a tale of two weekends in Colorado football. They start with Deion Sanders’ Buffaloes getting embarrassed in Salt Lake City — their most lopsided loss under Coach Prime — and why the team seemed completely unprepared after the bye. Then the conversation turns to the Broncos, who dismantled Dallas with balance, execution, and swagger. Al shares how ownership, coaching, and player development have made Denver one of the NFL’s most complete teams, while CJ pushes back on whether that’s sustainable without Pat Surtain. They also dive into Riley Moss’ performance stepping in at cornerback and a spirited debate over race and opportunity in the NFL that only Big Al & CJ could have.
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CJ
It was both the best and the worst this weekend. And ladies just say no.
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CJ
I.
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CJ
Welcome to the show. Big out man. It was, Well, first of all, I see you came in your Halloween costume. Well, decked out man, with the. I've. I've never seen you so proud to be to show off your.
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Big Al
You know, I got Bronco gear. I got this, jacket last year from, an alumni event. And, of course, I don't know how to wear a vest.
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CJ
So you rocking it, man?
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CJ
He kind of looked, like, got a little bobbed. Build it.
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Speaker 3
But,
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Big Al
I don't know what to do. I'm like, do I hold it down or do I put my hand in my pocket? It's the first time I've actually won a vest. Like, really? Yeah.
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CJ
Okay. I'm trying. You look good.
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Big Al
Something new. Something new.
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CJ
Well, look, man, I tell you what's, what's not new? The Broncos won yet another one. And I'm gonna start this conversation about the Broncos off like this big win over Dallas, right? 4424. That number 24, by the way, was the number. So you keep them under two, you know, 24 less. You win this football game. But that aside, I'm I'm sick of you naysayers out there.
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CJ
Like, it's it's interesting when you look at the National Football League. What are we eight eight in.
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Big Al
This is this is the time where you get a full evaluation.
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CJ
The National Football League is the top teams in the league go through this process. This is one of those years where you don't have a runaway team. Like there's no one that's undefeated right now or or that's the clear sort of best in the league. Philadelphia has kind of gone through their ups and downs. The the Chiefs have gone through their ups and downs.
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CJ
Right. Detroit was a little bit uneven at times. You look at the Ravens they've completely lost their way. Let's see if they can find their way in the second part of of the season. You look at this Broncos team. And I think oftentimes because we're here, there is a tendency to to be over critical right to over analyze the team.
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CJ
This is a team that's sitting at six and two. And quite frankly, with as strong as this defense is and an offense that from time to time it will peak. This is as good a team as there is in the league right now.
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Big Al
Yeah. I mean, that's it's it's one of the few teams where you can see, how they're young and getting better and stronger as the year goes on. And as you look at this team, I think one thing that you notice is that, you're starting to see unfamiliar faces making plays that, we didn't depend on earlier in the year.
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Big Al
So, it's exciting. And then when you have injuries which we have had to endure, and you see guys step up and play big in those situations, that tells you that there's great coaches. So you got great coaching, you got players who make plays. And at the top of the organization, you have one of the best ownership situations in all of football.
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Big Al
And I think that tells the entire story about the Denver Broncos from the top to the bottom.
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CJ
Well, when you get the most money, by far.
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Big Al
Doesn't mean that you're the.
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CJ
Best. That mean that you're the best.
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Big Al
It doesn't mean that you really care either.
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CJ
Well, let me ask you this. How do you evaluate? How do you make the let's take the money away? If you took the money away, how do you support the statement that they're the best?
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Big Al
Well, let me let me, let me give you a good story about Pat bowling before he passed away and it was told to me, by the great Mike Shanahan. And he said that, you know, we used to, as players back in the day, back all the way until black, until like 1990, 1996. I want you to think about this.
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Big Al
This was the age of million dollar paychecks in the NFL 30.
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CJ
Years ago.
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Big Al
Than it was in almost 30 years, right? Yeah, I'm almost 30. This was the year. These were the years of million dollar paychecks. And guys in the locker room were still getting their orders from McDonald's and Burger King, and, rookies were stopping and getting donuts for veterans. And at that time, Coach Shanahan start picking up, breakfast for the players, because he said he was tired of seeing the McDonald's and, the Burger King.
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Big Al
And then, it lapsed over into the era of getting lunch. Now, you got to remember now, nobody in the NFL was doing this. Pat Bowling was not the wealthiest owner. Pat Bowlen, stepped up and made sure that not only breakfast and lunches were available, but snacks. And actually one of the first teams to have a its own dedicated, room for lunches were the Denver Broncos.
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Big Al
And at the same time we were winning Super Bowls. So if you in a copycat league, if the Broncos are serving breakfast and lunch to their players and the players are no longer going out and getting, fast food, if you will, for breakfast, and we used to have this archaic system where you would tell a rookie, hey, go to, go to, like go to subway and give me a footlong.
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Big Al
And, you know, and so the rookie would have to take off and go and get the food and come back, which means that he didn't have time to study. And it was just it was just old school.
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CJ
It was it.
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Big Al
Was old school. Right. So it takes somebody who has, and and this was not because Mike Shanahan was in San Francisco, because I was in San Francisco the year before. So we did it in San Francisco like the rest of the NFL. Hey, you go and get burgers. Give me a burger. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you're going to get a piece of get me some pizza and you'll just pay for it when you come back.
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Big Al
So you say class and ownership. Well, you just have to have some leadership qualities. Say this is wrong. I think this will help our dietary plan. It'll help our, overall consistency of, managing players weight. And you just have to take the, you just have to take the initiative. But that doesn't mean you have to have the wealthiest ownership to do it.
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Big Al
As a matter of fact, I don't believe at any point Pat bowling was in the top half of the wealthiest owners in NFL.
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CJ
Thank you. Right.
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Big Al
So so that that's how you go from being a class organization, passing it on to another organization where they become the class organization as well.
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CJ
Okay. So you you have, you have immense confidence, as do I, I've.
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Big Al
Not met with them. I've met with them. Yeah. No, no stranger. I've met with them and, they've asked questions about, what they can do to help the alumni base. What community projects are we interested in? You know what? How can we help the organization? And they've been proactive that way. So, you know, that's something that, that's something that, I mean, from the bowling family.
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Big Al
Yeah. You know, so this is just another another layer on top of it, you know? So it just feels like they're doing things the right way. And I think that matters when you want to win.
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CJ
Well, you did mention as well, you know, players who are popping up on the stat sheet, young guys, three rookies really contributing big time in this pass game. That says a lot about, to your point, coaching and the confidence that you have in your organization. This kid RJ Harvey three touchdowns, two rushing, one passing one receiving Pat Bryant receiver looks good.
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CJ
Young rookie receiver looks really good out there. And this this cornerback who they drafted I think in the first round. The Barron kid, I mean, with with the pick, you know, you got something where you can go deep into your bag and get that kind of production from your rookie class.
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Big Al
Yeah. And, and the way I look at it also is that in this stage of the season, this stage in that season, there are no more rookies. Okay, you got to imagine in college football you play 12 games, okay. You play 12 games. Well, right now the Denver Broncos have had three preseason games and eight regular season games.
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Big Al
That's 11 games okay. That's equivalent to what most people would call a college football season. Plus, you've had the entire, off season. You've had the preseason leading up to the games, to practice. So this whole idea about the rookies being rookies, not this late in the year, because I think that they've had a real introduction to the NFL.
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Big Al
And I think that this is, the time when you'll see them shine if they got it.
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CJ
Yeah. And, they appear to have it. Now, you look at this, you know, we talk a lot about the the division, which is where it starts. And then we span out to the conference. I made the statement a few minutes ago that I think the Broncos are one of one of the probably top 6 or 7 teams in the league.
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CJ
Will you go that far? One and and as you. Because here's the thing. Teams play in the you know you kind of play and you season unfolds in the context of what's happening around you. I think a lot of times we evaluate teams, through a narrow window right in a silo, as if the world is, you know, there's nothing else happening.
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CJ
And so if they make a mistake or they don't look great, then they're bombs, so they're not going to be good enough to win it. That's kind of characteristic of this season. I think one of the, the most competitive, I think most interesting NFL seasons in a long time because, you know, sure, Kansas City is coming in to form, but what's that going to look like as we get down to it in the AFC Championship game when a division game.
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CJ
Sure, Buffalo is going to be right there, but they still haven't proven that they could get over the hump, right? I think the Ravens aren't. We haven't heard the the end of the Ravens yet. I think with as they get healthy that's a team that will make a surge. But as I look at this at this conference, I think the Broncos is as good.
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CJ
And they're obviously anchored by their defense. But their defense is good enough as they've proven to even win games for them when there's like lapses on the offense and certainly when the offense is playing well. I'm not sure if there is a more complete team or a better looking outfit in the National Football League. When they got it going the way they did against the Cowboys.
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Big Al
Yeah. I think the, first of all, the Cowboys stink on defense.
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CJ
Oh that's up you bad.
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Big Al
Two pointed it out C.J. You pointed out last week I had no idea they were that bad. You know what I'm saying. Even though you see it on film and you do your homework and you look at an opponent, there's no way in the world did you think that we would put up such gaudy numbers in the rushing game?
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Big Al
And Bo Nix actually, you know, look as good as Peyton Manning in his prime.
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Big Al
That's something you just can't make on every day. But it's.
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CJ
And they had every one of their DBS were out of the game. By the way. You took a sorry defense and you take the starting sorry players off, which by definition means the guys who come in in after the sorry players are sorry and then the sorry players. And so that's what you had at Dallas.
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Big Al
And they had no pass rush. Think of I mean I think Bo Nix got hit one time in the entire game.
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CJ
Yep.
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Big Al
That's a bad Dallas defensive football team. And it feels like that they are they're going to pack it in if they don't get major trades at the deadline, which is coming up in the next week or so. Which brings up to do a Sanders, which we could talk about it sometime later. Yeah. But but but this Bronco team, this Bronco team, you say, can they be one of the top 6 or 7 teams in the NFL?
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Big Al
The answer is yes. They're there right now. They're they're beat right now because they had a chance to win the two games that they lost. They've been lucky enough you know and in the contest well maybe they didn't think they were going to win. They pulled off 1 or 2. So I think that this has been a competitive team all year.
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Big Al
I think what's going to happen, down the stretch is that you're going to have to, you know, put the big boy pants on and play the Kansas City Chiefs twice with when in this time there is no end of the year. You know, just give, give a game away. Right. Like it was last year. But also last year the Broncos had a chance to win against the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Big Al
And you know blocked field goal. They could have won the first time. So it's going to it's going to be interesting to see how they fare against a team that is clearly looking to catch up in the standings. That one game behind the Denver Broncos, you got the cat. You got the, the Chargers out there that are, struggling to find their way, but they're still in it.
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Big Al
Right. But the teams that you mentioned, you know, I was just sitting here thinking about you got the Buffalo Bills, that's going to probably win that division. You have the in the.
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CJ
New England had may have something to say about.
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Big Al
It. Right, right. But but you're right. I think you had the money on it.
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CJ
I I'm going with, I'm going with the bills.
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Big Al
Okay. But, that job that, a coaching staff out there in New England has done has been great. Mike Vrabel yeah. And that staff is, put together a nice little, season so far. I mean, you got Andy, who is clearly the class A of the coaching regime right now. They are they're doing things the right way in Indianapolis.
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CJ
I'll tell you what that Jonathan Taylor.
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Big Al
Yeah, I.
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CJ
But.
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Big Al
To know that you have a special player and give him the rock like they have is also, a credit to the coaching staff. They'll use what you have. So you got the Colts? You have I don't know about the Texans anymore. I don't know if they are.
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CJ
Found out next week.
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Big Al
I don't know if they're a quality organization. Maybe, you know, when you are, you know, this is the shit that nobody talks about, right? When you are a first place team, playoff team. You have to play the top of everybody else's division the next year. So how you fare then, really tells a story about who you are when you're good?
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CJ
Yeah, it's a good point.
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Big Al
And then you talk about, so the Texans are going through that and I don't believe they're going to stand up to it okay. That's my that's my take. So I got the Indianapolis Colts is one of the best teams that well coached I got the bills is one of the best teams well coached. And the Broncos one best teams well coached.
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Big Al
Got the Kansas City Chiefs and then the one team that maybe nobody's really talking about right now. They looked a little old on, last weekend is the, Pittsburgh Steelers. And who they are with Aaron Rodgers in the first half was decent. I think they finished five and three. Who they are in the second half when they get home games, when it gets cold, when they have the veteran quarterback and full slate of games, how they look going into the postseason may take away that scariness, that we used to see in Baltimore.
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Big Al
Now, maybe it resides in Pittsburgh with that offense finally having a trigger man, says Ben Roethlisberger.
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CJ
Well, listen, before this week, I might have said, okay, losing a home game the way they did this past week to green Bay. With all that's at stake.
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Big Al
I think they looked old.
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CJ
They looked old. And I'm not certain that they can they're not going to get younger. They looked old because they are and defensively they're not pressuring the quarterback. You know, your quarterback is old. He's still he's still serviceable quarterback in this league. But and they're not running the ball. They have to they have to re identify who they are as a team in terms of a personality.
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CJ
Because I think a lot of what we say and think of Pittsburgh right now is what their reputation is. It's not been consistently demonstrated on the field. And we're getting to that point of the season, like you said, the truth. You know, all the lies are, you know, falling away. The truth is revealing itself. I don't see it in Pittsburgh.
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CJ
Drake.
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Big Al
May or Bo Nix.
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Speaker 3
Who.
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CJ
I would say, oh, that's a good one. Probably. Drake. Me. Okay. And and the reason I say that is, you know, and it's I'm not disparaging Bo by any stretch, but the reason that.
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Big Al
Sounds like we are when we say that, and anytime you say his name, you don't. And you don't say he is the best. It's like, man, we we've seen struggle and we've seen growth this year. But the struggle that we saw at times last year, I don't know if that's easily forgettable, but that's part of being a rookie.
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Big Al
And then this year, this year we've seen some ugly games. But, I'm going to have to say it's going to be Bo next for me.
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CJ
You think so?
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Big Al
Yeah. Because he because he can run. I mean, he can.
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CJ
Oh, well, Drake is pretty.
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Big Al
I know, but I'm talking about this, dude, this dude can run. He can run.
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CJ
Here is why I gave the nod to to to Drake. May Bo is he's the beneficiary of an offensive minded coach. Yeah. Who drafted him so that he knows who loves him and who drafted him. And that is that's huge for quarterback Drake. Maye, on the other hand, was drafted before Mike and his Vrabel. And that regime got this the first year there.
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Big Al
But they love him too.
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CJ
Of course they love him. He's the first round pick. But the you know it when the head coach is fully invested in you. And that's the position he he he coaches. It's going to give you every benefit to me. Good. And that's a, that's a plus. It's not a no. Again I'm not taking anything away from from Bo.
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CJ
But he has the he has the benefit of that reality. And what Drake Maye has done. I mean, you look at that team and what they've been the past few years, and now they're in first place in that division that that the bills have dominated winning a game in Buffalo. But let's talk cotton right.
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Big Al
Yeah man I mean the AFC the AFC is almost like you know it's almost like being in the Western Conference in, in the NBA it's almost the same. It's almost the same thing every week. It feels like something big is about to happen or something big is about to change. As soon as you see, I think a team is out of it, it come out of nowhere and they play big.
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Big Al
I mean, witnessed the Jets last week scoring 39 points.
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CJ
With that hap.
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Big Al
You know, I think, you know, sometimes you just get great game plans and you get players to respond. It's just it's and sometimes, you know, when you don't have coaches who understand the moment, it just takes them a while. And I think Aaron Glenn just didn't understand his team early on. And he maybe understands them a little more now.
00:19:52:17 - 00:19:54:09
Big Al
So maybe they have a better chance of winning.
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CJ
I think there's something to that. And you know, coaching the team, it takes time. You you know, you think you know, you don't know what you don't know. You put them.
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Big Al
In a situation.
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CJ
That's exactly right. So so that's it with the Broncos. And I think this team is they've gone through a gantlet with the travel and the East Coast. I mean they've gone through it and they came out unscathed.
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Big Al
Went to London.
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CJ
Went to London. That's exactly right. Now they're going to have to deal with a little adversity that they didn't foresee. Your best player Patrick certain, is out for at least a month. For the six weeks I think the reports are I think he has a torn pec that said Riley Moss, who I've always liked as a as the opposite.
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CJ
Right. The guy opposite Pat, certain, he didn't have that certain to be opposite of he's someone is going to be opposite of Riley Moss now mixed bag in the game to, to pass interference calls on in three consecutive plays. But here's what Riley had to say about. Yeah, you know, you got to keep playing.
00:20:59:24 - 00:21:17:20
CJ
It sucks, but it's just part of the job, I guess. And, yeah, you just got to keep playing. And, you know, I was blessed with a pretty short memory, so, you know, it doesn't bother me. We won the game, but bing bada boom. What was those facial expressions that Brandon Crystal was making in the background? BKA, you know what I love about BK?
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CJ
BK is going to find a cameraman. He really thinks he has a face for TV, but.
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Big Al
You know, you know, the, you.
00:21:25:19 - 00:21:37:28
CJ
Know, you gotta keep playing, yeah. Golly league in that. And the point he made about keeping plan is he's absolutely right that I look at BK back there. Look at him.
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Big Al
Oh he did I look at it.
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CJ
Yeah.
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Big Al
And and and cheeks and everything. Yeah.
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CJ
Look at oh he's he's all in. All right.
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Big Al
Well I guess you know the eyes when you know where your camera is, you get the act toward the camera. But, I think that Riley mouse.
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Big Al
You know, this is what I know this would this would I know the Broncos level. I mean, the Broncos absolutely love Riley mouse.
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CJ
Vijay loves.
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Big Al
Vijay. Loves them. He calls him a special player. He is, he's highly regarded. But the thing is, and I want to talk about this for a minute, because this is the. This is the part that is hard to explain. The people who are watching the cornerback position. The quarterback position is the it is it is the left tackle of offense because you just have to be patient and you just have to let the game come to you and whatever happens, you have to be able to adjust.
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Big Al
It's the only position on the field. It's really the only position on the field where things are happening behind you and you don't know what is really happening until the ball is actually launched and it's within 4 or 5 yards from you. And we're talking about nanoseconds where you have to really react. What may Patrick certain so great.
00:23:04:26 - 00:23:21:05
Big Al
And the defensive player of the year is that he doesn't panic in those situations. You know, like panic is grabbing. Panic is pushing. Panic is riding the guy out of bounds, you know, unnecessarily and.
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CJ
Holding a lot of.
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Big Al
Different holding. Right? I mean, those things were part of Patrick Sutton's game as a rookie. That has to be the difference maker in Riley Moss, because he is a guy who does all the opposite. He grabs, he pushes, he interferes. And it's not that he is not right there with the players that he's garden. He's just.
00:23:47:15 - 00:23:49:15
CJ
Doing the extra and he doesn't need to.
00:23:49:15 - 00:24:08:20
Big Al
Do the extra. And that's what that's why he struggles to play, cornerback at times. Because he just does not have the patience. And that's something that you just have to know and you have to feel. And that's what made Patrick certain so great. Over these last four years, four and a half years.
00:24:08:20 - 00:24:22:19
CJ
Like, I got to tell you, man, that was that was a masterclass in an explanation of of the difference between a defensive player of the year All-Pro. Yeah, corner. And a guy who's a good corner.
00:24:22:19 - 00:24:23:09
Big Al
Good corner.
00:24:23:09 - 00:24:39:04
CJ
Makes us impatient. It was a good corner. But I love the explanation. And you're right, it's like it's the panic at the point of contact, right? You do everything just right, Ian. Just at the right then. Yeah. You do everything right and then you. It's like you're, you know, something's about to happen, right?
00:24:39:04 - 00:24:45:29
Big Al
Well, I can feel it. You can feel it, you look for it, and then you do. You do the thing that they say, don't do.
00:24:46:01 - 00:24:50:05
CJ
Bro. That was that was damn good I got you give me, sir.
00:24:50:07 - 00:24:50:23
Big Al
But I mean.
00:24:50:28 - 00:24:52:10
CJ
I'm not working on that.
00:24:52:10 - 00:25:01:09
Big Al
I've been. But I've known this about Riley Mouth since he's been drafted. You know, and I was trying to figure out, first of all, is is clear and it's obvious he's a white corner. Right?
00:25:01:15 - 00:25:02:15
CJ
I didn't see I.
00:25:02:17 - 00:25:03:20
Big Al
Listen, he's a white corner.
00:25:03:20 - 00:25:06:07
CJ
I think he was. Well listen. Is he white?
00:25:06:09 - 00:25:07:20
Big Al
He has a white corner.
00:25:07:20 - 00:25:11:28
CJ
No play that. Pull that back I didn't I saw the last game bro okay.
00:25:12:00 - 00:25:13:13
Big Al
He is a nice game bro I was talking.
00:25:13:13 - 00:25:18:13
CJ
To Chad Brown.
00:25:18:16 - 00:25:19:10
Big Al
I didn't say that.
00:25:19:10 - 00:25:21:14
CJ
To hey that's my dog tag. I didn't.
00:25:21:14 - 00:25:22:04
Big Al
Say that.
00:25:22:06 - 00:25:23:21
CJ
I guess he his way.
00:25:23:23 - 00:25:25:18
Big Al
Yeah he can. White corner.
00:25:25:20 - 00:25:27:11
CJ
What does that mean?
00:25:27:13 - 00:25:40:24
Big Al
C.J. He is the first white corner to play corner in the NFL and be drafted to play that position and stay at that position since Jason Seehorn.
00:25:40:26 - 00:25:41:22
CJ
Really?
00:25:41:23 - 00:25:43:07
Big Al
Yes.
00:25:43:09 - 00:25:45:14
CJ
Yeah. Come on man that cannot be right.
00:25:45:15 - 00:26:05:04
Big Al
Listen, man. This, this this has been his plight. You know, he wears long white sleeves in every game. I think it's almost, you know, not to stick out.
00:26:05:06 - 00:26:09:14
CJ
Come on, man, I don't believe that. You know, Riley Moss is a good football.
00:26:09:18 - 00:26:13:12
Big Al
I didn't say he wasn't. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you.
00:26:13:13 - 00:26:14:28
CJ
It's a bit of an anomaly, right?
00:26:15:00 - 00:26:38:24
Big Al
Well, I mean, and I think the, the kid that, played opposite him when he was at Iowa was just drafted by the Eagles, had a big interception in the Super Bowl last year. Two white corners, both from Iowa. Both can play football. Both of them can really play. Yes, but it's really obvious. I guess it would be equivalent to for me, it would be equivalent to saying, hey, that's a black quarterback.
00:26:38:27 - 00:26:43:27
Big Al
And for the longest time in the NFL you did not see a black quarterback, right?
00:26:43:29 - 00:26:46:26
CJ
Not not consistent. Now have the teams are starting right.
00:26:46:26 - 00:26:56:09
Big Al
Right, right. I mean but but for you know, like my rookie year, Randall Cunningham the black.
00:26:56:09 - 00:26:57:15
CJ
Quarterback I'm you old.
00:26:57:15 - 00:27:04:26
Big Al
Brett. Yeah. Randall Cunningham Warren Moon and maybe Rodney Peete was playing.
00:27:05:01 - 00:27:07:20
CJ
Who was a guy in Cincinnati who was Jeff.
00:27:07:20 - 00:27:08:02
Big Al
Blake?
00:27:08:03 - 00:27:09:09
CJ
Jeff Blake. Yeah.
00:27:09:13 - 00:27:27:18
Big Al
He came late a little later. I'm talking about. That's true. When I got into the league, so the rest of the quarterbacks, you know, I'm trying to think the rest of the quarterbacks were white. So it was so. So when I tell you there's been, realization that white corners can play, you know.
00:27:29:08 - 00:27:36:00
Big Al
You know, that that's, that's something that I think everybody knew. But who would be the first one to draft somebody?
00:27:36:00 - 00:27:38:20
CJ
Well, I think I'm saying, like, I hear what you're saying, but.
00:27:38:25 - 00:27:43:21
Big Al
Who would be the first GM to draft and play a white cornerback? George Mason.
00:27:43:24 - 00:27:44:20
CJ
Well.
00:27:44:22 - 00:28:01:08
Big Al
Well, what was that? Could you say that? Could you say that, who I guess that would be, the head coach. Peyton? No. So, Peyton, it's either whoever, whoever called it. Or is that Vance Joseph?
00:28:01:09 - 00:28:03:07
CJ
Yeah, it was before. He was before Sean Payton.
00:28:03:12 - 00:28:05:00
Big Al
No, it was he was he.
00:28:05:03 - 00:28:06:26
CJ
That was Moss was before Sean Payton.
00:28:06:28 - 00:28:08:12
Big Al
But this is year three for him.
00:28:08:14 - 00:28:13:04
CJ
Is it? Yeah. Three. Yeah. So what was he in Sean's first draft. Yes okay. Yeah.
00:28:13:04 - 00:28:20:15
Big Al
So one of the three is either Sean Payton. It's either Vance Joseph or it's, the GM.
00:28:20:17 - 00:28:27:03
CJ
Well, but we we gotta be we we can't go too far on making these. What the fuck are you talking about?
00:28:27:03 - 00:28:33:04
Big Al
I'm just telling you what happened. I'm not telling you it's right or wrong. I'm telling you that. I'm telling you that it happened.
00:28:33:07 - 00:28:34:15
CJ
Can I can I finish?
00:28:34:18 - 00:28:49:06
Big Al
I'm just saying why, why, why, why are you. What is there? Is there something about can I. I'm just. I'm just letting you know. It's, It's, you know, the Broncos actually gave him a fair shot. The guy has the talent of a first rounder.
00:28:49:08 - 00:29:00:24
CJ
So let me ask you a question. Go ahead. Do you think there are. Like white corners out there that's just not getting a shot because of the white?
00:29:01:00 - 00:29:02:02
Big Al
Absolutely.
00:29:02:04 - 00:29:04:01
CJ
Really?
00:29:04:04 - 00:29:08:06
Big Al
It's like gay football players who don't get a chance.
00:29:08:08 - 00:29:18:21
CJ
Hey, man. Hey, bro. You you got to bring it back in now. What are you talking about? What is the comparison? Oh, my God, being gay, let's not listen. Being white and being a cop. Are you kidding me, man?
00:29:18:21 - 00:29:20:10
Big Al
Let's not do this, okay? What are.
00:29:20:10 - 00:29:20:23
CJ
You talking.
00:29:20:23 - 00:29:30:18
Big Al
About? Let's not do this, man. Come on, man, you know that there are certain people that don't get shots in the NFL, bro. Not now. I'm. I'm gonna. I know.
00:29:30:20 - 00:29:32:01
CJ
I'm. I think you missing the whole.
00:29:32:01 - 00:29:35:27
Big Al
Hold on, man. Thank you. Mister, I just want to talk about Michael Sam for a minute. Okay? You can talk.
00:29:35:27 - 00:29:36:27
CJ
About whatever you want to. I want.
00:29:36:27 - 00:29:37:10
Big Al
To talk about.
00:29:37:10 - 00:29:42:00
CJ
Michael, Sam. But that has nothing to do with. I want to talk about my previous ridiculous point that you made them.
00:29:42:00 - 00:29:53:16
Big Al
Listen, man, I want to talk about Michael Sam, SEC defensive player of the year. Yes. Okay. Plays and balls out in preseason in the NFL. Yes. And does not get a shot.
00:29:53:19 - 00:30:06:27
CJ
To make a late draft I think. Wow. Never really given a shot I agree. Yeah but why. Because I agree with you on this. Because I think because he was gay. Just say it. Don't. If you will allow me to, I will man you a little bit.
00:30:06:29 - 00:30:14:19
Big Al
I'm just saying, I'm. I'm just telling you, dude, you asked me about white cornerbacks. I'm telling you, white cornerbacks really didn't fit in the NFL, and neither did gay players.
00:30:14:21 - 00:30:35:23
CJ
I don't even know. Get clear, Harris. And now I think the comparison is absolutely egregious. It's ridiculous. The reason white corners aren't you don't see an abundance of white corners in the National Football League is not the same reason you don't see more gay players who are out in the National Football League. Two completely different, completely different ways.
00:30:35:25 - 00:30:39:00
CJ
For you to conflate the two, I think is absurd.
00:30:39:02 - 00:30:56:00
Big Al
I'm just telling you that there is a perspective out there that won't allow for certain players to be part of this league, or has been you know, and and breaking through the white cornerback is it's been a big one. There's been a big one.
00:30:56:05 - 00:31:02:26
CJ
First of all that what's what don't you understand? I don't understand if I tell you.
00:31:02:29 - 00:31:07:29
Big Al
That he's the first white corner to be drafted as a corner and play since Jason Seehorn.
00:31:08:02 - 00:31:10:23
CJ
Means what?
00:31:10:25 - 00:31:15:24
CJ
What? So you tell him. What does that mean? What are you telling me to see?
00:31:15:24 - 00:31:19:28
Big Al
Who played in the NFL when there was a Harry Potter? That was Jerry curl.
00:31:20:01 - 00:31:23:18
CJ
So are you saying are you saying that white corners have been.
00:31:23:18 - 00:31:29:28
Big Al
Discriminated against, if you will, as a football to the football category? Well, I.
00:31:30:01 - 00:31:32:04
CJ
Didn't see you have to back that up.
00:31:32:06 - 00:31:40:05
Big Al
I have years of I have years of non drafting of players or immediately drafting what I tell you. They move them to safety.
00:31:40:05 - 00:31:45:23
CJ
I tell you what you need to do, you need to next, next. So I don't know anything.
00:31:45:23 - 00:31:46:27
Big Al
Next I want you to bring.
00:31:46:27 - 00:31:52:19
CJ
Me the draft boards or the cornerback evaluations of drag players and show me.
00:31:52:19 - 00:31:57:24
Big Al
Where you mean, like the same one that was, available for the black quarterbacks who didn't get a chance?
00:31:57:24 - 00:32:06:04
CJ
See, that's a social experiment that. Listen, do you realize that there were only white cornerbacks in the National Football League at one point?
00:32:06:07 - 00:32:07:11
Speaker 3
Yes.
00:32:07:14 - 00:32:08:14
Big Al
White football players.
00:32:08:14 - 00:32:10:24
CJ
Was there ever only black quarterbacks in the National?
00:32:10:24 - 00:32:23:00
Big Al
No no no no no no. You're saying what you're saying. Oh my goodness. You don't don't do missing the whole thing. You're missing it. You're missing it okay I point out the obvious okay. I point out the, you are missing obvious.
00:32:23:00 - 00:32:25:00
CJ
And you're not a lot of quarterbacks in the.
00:32:25:00 - 00:32:27:18
Big Al
League. They're the only two. Wow. They're only two.
00:32:27:24 - 00:32:33:00
CJ
Okay. Okay, I guess, I guess way to dress it, I guess. White running backs. I discriminated against it.
00:32:33:02 - 00:32:34:29
Big Al
No, that's not true. No.
00:32:35:02 - 00:32:35:13
CJ
No, no.
00:32:35:13 - 00:32:39:17
Big Al
Because we've seen we've seen white running backs have a Hall of Fame career.
00:32:39:20 - 00:32:40:09
CJ
A handful.
00:32:40:14 - 00:32:41:12
Big Al
Yeah we have we.
00:32:41:12 - 00:32:43:25
CJ
Have I guess wide receivers are discriminated against.
00:32:43:25 - 00:32:45:13
Big Al
You know we've seen wide receivers.
00:32:45:18 - 00:32:46:29
CJ
Yeah. You know we've.
00:32:46:29 - 00:32:58:20
Big Al
Seen them drafted. We've seen them play. Yeah. But but why can't a man the white corners just listen I, I play it and I play it in the NFL.
00:32:58:23 - 00:33:19:29
Big Al
I play in the NFL. Hold on. I get to play in the NFL for, nine seasons, ten training camps. No, not one time. And it maybe it was just a coincidence. Not one time in ten training camps did I see one white cornerback.
00:33:19:29 - 00:33:24:27
CJ
Okay, you should have been a better team mate instead of for your white quarterbacks, right?
00:33:24:28 - 00:33:30:13
Big Al
Well, no, the white quarterbacks that I played with was drafted actually by the, the Seattle Seahawks.
00:33:30:14 - 00:33:32:08
CJ
So let me let me let me let me get this. That was.
00:33:32:08 - 00:33:32:29
Big Al
Dave McLaurin.
00:33:32:29 - 00:33:35:09
CJ
So you're saying who who was a hell of a cornerback.
00:33:35:09 - 00:33:36:16
Big Al
Yeah I played with me in Colorado.
00:33:36:17 - 00:33:43:24
CJ
I was at the University of Colorado. Let me let me get this right. So you're saying that. Oh my knee. Hold on. Let me get. Yeah. This is.
00:33:43:24 - 00:33:46:01
Big Al
Such bullshit. Yeah. This is bullshit.
00:33:46:01 - 00:33:47:03
CJ
This guy, this guy.
00:33:47:03 - 00:33:48:19
Big Al
I don't have to. Don't doesn't have this.
00:33:48:19 - 00:33:51:02
CJ
Saying that the National Football League.
00:33:51:04 - 00:33:53:07
Big Al
Discriminates against gay people.
00:33:53:10 - 00:33:54:14
CJ
And white corners.
00:33:54:14 - 00:33:55:14
Big Al
So there was a time.
00:33:55:14 - 00:33:56:12
CJ
So an ownership.
00:33:56:12 - 00:33:56:22
Big Al
There was a.
00:33:56:22 - 00:33:59:21
CJ
Time, an ownership group that are all white.
00:33:59:22 - 00:34:03:27
Big Al
No, no, I didn't say. I didn't say ownership. Maybe it was scouting community. Maybe it was a coaching staff.
00:34:03:27 - 00:34:04:21
CJ
Allow me to wear.
00:34:04:21 - 00:34:05:03
Big Al
Your head.
00:34:05:03 - 00:34:28:12
CJ
Bro. Okay. An ownership group that's 100% white coaching staffs and evaluators that a majority white are discriminating against. White corners. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Why would they do that? Why would they do that?
00:34:28:15 - 00:34:31:12
Big Al
Oh, are we being are we being serious right now? I mean.
00:34:31:12 - 00:34:33:00
CJ
Seriously, I'm not sure if we are not.
00:34:33:00 - 00:34:34:00
Big Al
Okay. Well then let's.
00:34:34:00 - 00:34:34:13
CJ
Because.
00:34:34:13 - 00:34:39:07
Big Al
Let's let's move on. Because if you if you want to play this shit, I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
00:34:39:09 - 00:34:39:18
CJ
Well, I'm.
00:34:39:18 - 00:34:41:24
Big Al
Giving you I'm giving you the gospel here, okay?
00:34:41:26 - 00:34:44:05
CJ
That that white cornerbacks discriminated against.
00:34:44:05 - 00:34:47:05
Big Al
That they were not being drafted or if they went.
00:34:47:08 - 00:34:48:25
CJ
Out. What you said oh listen.
00:34:48:25 - 00:34:56:24
Big Al
Not lifted. If they if they were drafted they were drafted. But they did not play corner in this league.
00:34:56:24 - 00:35:00:03
CJ
And I will tell you it's not because they were white.
00:35:00:05 - 00:35:00:16
Big Al
Okay?
00:35:00:17 - 00:35:06:10
CJ
It was because they were a better safety than appointed period. That's why.
00:35:06:10 - 00:35:07:25
Big Al
All right.
00:35:07:27 - 00:35:13:28
CJ
I mean, do you disagree with that? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to ask you that question. Let's move on the way I.
00:35:14:00 - 00:35:16:10
Big Al
I'll answer your question. I'll ask you a question.
00:35:16:12 - 00:35:16:28
CJ
I didn't mean to.
00:35:17:00 - 00:35:24:04
Big Al
Answer your question. Do I believe that white cornerbacks got a fair shot in the NFL? No.
00:35:24:07 - 00:35:24:27
CJ
In the evidence.
00:35:24:27 - 00:35:29:23
Big Al
Of probably gay players get a fair shot in the NFL? Hell no.
00:35:29:25 - 00:35:30:16
CJ
Do you think.
00:35:30:16 - 00:35:37:27
Big Al
I don't believe that there's one gay player that's out right now going into an NFL draft that will be drafted. Do you.
00:35:37:27 - 00:35:38:29
CJ
Think right now.
00:35:38:29 - 00:35:52:15
Big Al
This is 2025 and I'm telling you this right now not going to happen. Not going to happen. What who's going to be the first. Who's going to be the first coach to to to to integrate the locker room for the gay player.
00:35:52:15 - 00:35:54:10
CJ
How many gay players do you think are in a league now?
00:35:54:13 - 00:35:56:00
Big Al
Oh, I don't know. Maybe, maybe.
00:35:56:01 - 00:35:57:03
CJ
10% I don't.
00:35:57:03 - 00:35:58:16
Big Al
Know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't.
00:35:58:16 - 00:36:03:13
CJ
Know. But you won't deny that there are gay players likely in the National Football League.
00:36:03:16 - 00:36:04:15
Big Al
Yeah, I would imagine so.
00:36:04:15 - 00:36:05:13
CJ
Okay. I don't know, man.
00:36:05:14 - 00:36:19:25
Big Al
Your point is. But I'm just saying, like, you know, when you hear these stories about guys who say that they're gay, okay, there was only been one who was a high profile player, okay. Only one that was a high profile player at a premium position and.
00:36:19:25 - 00:36:21:09
CJ
Was absolutely discriminated.
00:36:21:09 - 00:36:21:16
Big Al
Against.
00:36:21:16 - 00:36:27:23
CJ
Absolutely no. And for you to make that point is fair, but to conflate it with the quarterback situation, I'm.
00:36:27:23 - 00:36:28:09
Big Al
Just telling.
00:36:28:09 - 00:36:29:08
CJ
You this.
00:36:29:11 - 00:36:37:29
Big Al
And it's not clumsy. It is. It is. So it's it's it's factual and it is if you can find some evidence to show me otherwise, I challenge.
00:36:37:29 - 00:36:39:25
CJ
No, no, the burden of proof is on you.
00:36:39:27 - 00:36:41:12
Big Al
I told you what the history. You made.
00:36:41:12 - 00:36:41:23
CJ
A claim.
00:36:41:24 - 00:36:42:15
Big Al
I told you what the hell?
00:36:42:15 - 00:36:43:23
CJ
I want to talk to you. You give me a.
00:36:43:23 - 00:36:45:22
Big Al
You don't want history, but that's good.
00:36:45:23 - 00:36:46:19
CJ
That's ridiculous.
00:36:46:19 - 00:36:53:00
Big Al
Okay, you don't have to have you. Listen, you don't have to agree with me. All you have to do is just look it up.
00:36:53:03 - 00:36:57:27
CJ
Oh my God. Okay. All right. Anyway, man, can we move on?
00:36:58:05 - 00:37:00:11
Big Al
Yes.
00:37:00:13 - 00:37:01:24
CJ
You think you made a pointed point?
00:37:01:24 - 00:37:02:28
Big Al
So, you know, I'm just telling you.
00:37:02:28 - 00:37:04:03
CJ
Tipping your cap to, you.
00:37:04:06 - 00:37:09:24
Big Al
Know, I'm just letting you know the guy can play. He's just got to learn to be patient, that's all. That's this whole conversation.
00:37:09:24 - 00:37:11:09
CJ
Who are you talking about, Riley Moss.
00:37:11:09 - 00:37:13:00
Big Al
Riley Moss has to learn to be patient.
00:37:13:01 - 00:37:15:10
CJ
That was a very. I gave you props for making that.
00:37:15:10 - 00:37:16:14
Big Al
That's what I'm saying. But then he went.
00:37:16:14 - 00:37:18:11
CJ
Off the rails and says some completely.
00:37:18:11 - 00:37:24:14
Big Al
No shit, you know, because I'm starting to hear I'm starting to hear chattering about the white cornerback out there.
00:37:24:15 - 00:37:25:05
CJ
Of course, it's.
00:37:25:05 - 00:37:36:22
Big Al
Always just like, you know, like my son, you know, cute, cute stuff. People are starting to talk about whether or not the white cornerback can play. And I'm telling you, the guy can play. He's just got to learn to be patient.
00:37:36:23 - 00:37:40:03
CJ
Every white cornerback that I've seen play can play.
00:37:40:06 - 00:37:44:01
Big Al
How many have you seen play in the NFL?
00:37:44:03 - 00:37:46:13
CJ
Two that I'm aware of that I recall.
00:37:46:13 - 00:37:48:01
Big Al
How long ago.
00:37:48:03 - 00:37:50:04
CJ
That's over a 25 year period.
00:37:50:06 - 00:37:54:16
Big Al
So you three right there. So Jason to the horn.
00:37:54:16 - 00:37:55:27
CJ
Yeah Riley man a.
00:37:55:27 - 00:37:58:00
Big Al
Two and a two from Iowa.
00:37:58:03 - 00:38:00:03
CJ
Okay. All right. There you go.
00:38:00:06 - 00:38:00:16
Big Al
Okay.
00:38:00:22 - 00:38:07:16
CJ
There you go people go wait. Corners are starting to be more prevalent and they'll be more present in the league.
00:38:07:18 - 00:38:09:12
Big Al
What happened what what changed?
00:38:09:15 - 00:38:10:07
CJ
What do you mean, what changed?
00:38:10:07 - 00:38:11:24
Big Al
What changed? What what changed?
00:38:11:24 - 00:38:13:08
CJ
What what what is it?
00:38:13:13 - 00:38:18:02
Big Al
What made them more prevalent now than than ten years ago?
00:38:18:02 - 00:38:26:22
CJ
I my guess is, is, you probably have more going out and playing the position from high school through college.
00:38:26:22 - 00:38:31:01
Big Al
You think they're not going to turn on TV this weekend? They're going to be white corners playing everywhere.
00:38:31:01 - 00:38:41:19
CJ
I don't like you do not see a lot of irony there. You do not see a lot of white corners playing at this football anyway, man. Why?
00:38:41:20 - 00:38:50:07
Big Al
Because is it because the black college coaches don't want to play a white corner? Because they think that that white corner is going to be targeted?
00:38:50:10 - 00:38:54:17
CJ
Hey, man, this is this is going this is getting worse every second of this conversation.
00:38:54:17 - 00:38:58:12
Big Al
I'm just telling you, these are the conversations that's been had. That's great.
00:38:58:15 - 00:39:02:08
CJ
That's great. And sometimes, okay, sometimes the barbershop conversations is just.
00:39:02:08 - 00:39:16:24
Big Al
Not a barbershop conversation. It's just a truth. This like you need to give, you know, you know, like it's fair to give the black quarterback a shot. It's fair to give the black quarterback a shot. It's fair to give the white cornerback a shot.
00:39:16:24 - 00:39:20:20
CJ
So you equating discrimination against black quarterbacks. But why.
00:39:20:21 - 00:39:25:06
Big Al
Why, why wasn't the black quarterback part of the 70s and the.
00:39:25:06 - 00:39:39:10
CJ
80s. Well in the 90s more so. And we begin to see it in December because like like the larger black population at large, it was discriminated against. And quarterback was all always high school.
00:39:39:10 - 00:39:39:19
Big Al
Right.
00:39:39:19 - 00:39:41:01
CJ
Probably for no, no, no, no.
00:39:41:01 - 00:39:41:14
Big Al
To junior.
00:39:41:14 - 00:39:41:22
CJ
High.
00:39:41:22 - 00:39:44:20
Big Al
No junior high high school college.
00:39:44:23 - 00:40:10:15
CJ
Right. Listen listen again equating what happened. Black quarterbacks were a subset of the black population writ large. And so they were discriminated against right. It is the leadership the cerebral the the you know, the leader of the team. And unfortunately there are time periods in our history where black folks didn't get the benefit of being able to do those things.
00:40:10:15 - 00:40:15:10
CJ
That's why they weren't black quarterbacks. I don't know what point you're making or what is the.
00:40:15:17 - 00:40:18:03
Big Al
So wait, wait wait, wait, you're saying I don't want to say I don't want to.
00:40:18:03 - 00:40:19:28
CJ
I don't want to wait, okay. They want to move on.
00:40:20:01 - 00:40:22:10
Big Al
We'll go ahead. Move on. Because when I'm telling you that.
00:40:22:11 - 00:40:22:29
CJ
You're talking.
00:40:23:00 - 00:40:30:09
Big Al
Clearly, clearly, there was a period in the NFL where black quarterbacks were not allowed.
00:40:30:09 - 00:40:31:28
CJ
I think I just explain to you why.
00:40:31:29 - 00:40:34:11
Big Al
Oh, okay. I'm just telling you that it happened.
00:40:34:14 - 00:40:35:08
CJ
I know it happened.
00:40:35:09 - 00:40:44:00
Big Al
Okay. When I'm telling you, there's a period also when the white cornerback wasn't allowed to play in this league. And I'm just telling you that happened as well.
00:40:44:03 - 00:40:53:09
CJ
Both happened. And we can acknowledge that both happened. But trying to draw a parallel between the reasons why he was meticulous.
00:40:53:12 - 00:40:54:01
Big Al
What?
00:40:54:03 - 00:40:56:10
CJ
Hey man, let's either it happen.
00:40:56:12 - 00:40:59:22
Big Al
It happened. I didn't tell you why it happened. I'm just telling you.
00:40:59:24 - 00:41:02:01
CJ
They said they were discriminated against.
00:41:02:03 - 00:41:06:19
Big Al
As a as a as a as a collective group.
00:41:06:21 - 00:41:13:14
CJ
Can we move on to something else that's going to give me a headache. The Colorado Buffaloes went to Utah after a.
00:41:13:14 - 00:41:18:15
Big Al
Discriminated against, absolutely discriminated against last week.
00:41:18:22 - 00:41:43:06
CJ
They they were the Utes were not great hosts to a Colorado Buffaloes man 53 seven. The final score bro. Let me tell you something. I watched this game I wanted. I was at the crib late game 8:00 at all my videos. I wouldn't run to my kitchen. You know, I get my videos and everything straight. I get back to my seat, bro, is I'm seeing a guy just rip off alone.
00:41:43:06 - 00:42:04:28
CJ
I'm going am okay. All right. We got to settle ourselves. It got worse from there. It never looked like a team that was going that get off the bus to compete in a football game. It was shocking to me. One and you and I talked about this a little bit off of off line. It was after a bye.
00:42:05:04 - 00:42:11:23
CJ
It was after bye. And two, it was a team that was in Colorado that was beginning to trend in the right direction, and.
00:42:11:23 - 00:42:13:18
Big Al
They had their starting quarterback out.
00:42:13:20 - 00:42:34:24
CJ
And they had the starting quarterback out. They had the CU buffs had 53 put on them by a freshman quarterback in his first college game. Action. I am you know, it's shocked me. But then I begin to think about, as I.
00:42:35:01 - 00:42:35:17
Big Al
Get it.
00:42:35:19 - 00:42:36:21
CJ
Removed.
00:42:36:24 - 00:42:37:09
Big Al
But go ahead.
00:42:37:16 - 00:43:01:04
CJ
With as I remove myself from the emotion of the moment, something we gave a great deal of credit for last week, I think backfired on you. I think it completely back to go ahead. I think this was a team that had almost zero focus on the task at hand, and that was playing Utah. And what may have contributed to that.
00:43:01:06 - 00:43:19:13
CJ
You know, college teams now, I think you can break them up in thirds. A third of your team are solidly these are guys that are your staples. They're going to be back next year. And no matter what, this is where you this is the foundation you program. Then you have a third that's that's in the mix. Like they don't know right.
00:43:19:13 - 00:43:26:05
CJ
Maybe I'm in the play, maybe I'm not. Then you have a third that's flat out looking out the door trying to figure out who they coach next year.
00:43:26:05 - 00:43:27:08
Big Al
I got to know okay.
00:43:27:08 - 00:44:01:07
CJ
So when you do here is the flip side. We gave Dion a lot of credit for the portal scrimmage. And you know getting his guys film and and you know opportunities to shine for the upcoming portal. The problem is and it looked like a team that wasn't completely focused in on this particular task, it's likely or possible that two thirds of your team were thinking about whether or not they had good film, whether or not the, you know, and that was a prevailing message.
00:44:01:09 - 00:44:11:28
CJ
And I think it looked like a team that just wasn't focused on the task at hand. I think that came back to bite them in the butt a little bit.
00:44:12:00 - 00:44:37:23
Big Al
All good teams that I've been part of and I've been part of some really, really, really good football teams. I would say half my career has been spent on good. The great football teams. What are you doing? A bye week is you block and you tackle and you focus on fundamentals. That's it, that's it. You know, people want to know.
00:44:37:23 - 00:45:09:27
Big Al
Do you put in a new defense. Maybe you put in a new offensive wrinkle. Maybe, but not real change. You just don't have time because it takes, communication. It takes it takes, a brand new mindset of the play caller to get in the role of call and say it plays. And in general, you just don't you just don't make wholesale changes unless it's for a guy who has not played to finally play.
00:45:09:29 - 00:45:39:09
Big Al
Colorado was not in that situation last week. Right? So what I saw it last week was a total breakdown in coaching. And I saw, a defensive effort that we talked about the week before. That was excellent. The following week we saw a few guys and this is how it works. Man. In one gap defense, you have a few guys who are in position to make the play that don't make the play.
00:45:39:09 - 00:46:00:24
Big Al
Yeah. And when you don't make the play in a one gap defense, then you get scarred. And that's exactly what happened to the University of Colorado. You know, either a guy didn't get to this gap responsibility or he was in his gap responsibility didn't make the tackle. And when you have situations like that in a one gap defense, you get scarred up offensively.
00:46:00:27 - 00:46:03:17
Big Al
Passer was just got to do better. He's just.
00:46:03:19 - 00:46:05:18
CJ
But maybe someone else needs to do better.
00:46:05:21 - 00:46:06:08
Big Al
C.J..
00:46:06:09 - 00:46:07:25
CJ
Maybe someone else needs to do better.
00:46:08:02 - 00:46:09:11
Big Al
You know, I, I can't.
00:46:09:11 - 00:46:14:15
CJ
Tell you how many times we've said on this show and others past them, we got to do better.
00:46:14:18 - 00:46:36:00
Big Al
I started the season off. Started the season off last year. I say this year with one prevailing thing. The University of Colorado sent four guys to the NFL that made NFL rosters at wide receiver. Okay, you know who else does that?
00:46:36:02 - 00:46:37:29
CJ
Ohio State, right.
00:46:38:02 - 00:46:47:11
Big Al
They also sent a quarterback to the NFL that actually made the team. No. Does that.
00:46:47:13 - 00:47:19:23
Big Al
Ohio State yeah you know this is this is LSU Ohio State. These are the bluebloods of college football. And what do we do with that talent. Last year in the last opportunity to play together we squandered it. And that was with 2 or 3 weeks in a bowl game that happened in San Antonio. And to that I was like, you know, you just ruin these guys stock value because they actually showed up for Coach Prime and played that.
00:47:19:23 - 00:47:22:12
Big Al
Travis Hunter still went, I think second, third, second.
00:47:22:12 - 00:47:22:24
CJ
Overall.
00:47:22:24 - 00:47:47:13
Big Al
Second overall in the NFL draft. But by the way, he won the Heisman Trophy. Okay. Signifying the best player in college football. Did you really get the best out of him? Probably because he played defense. But in general, you I never thought that the offensive playcalling was up to par with the talent that we had last year. I started this year hopeful that we would have a breakthrough with Pat Shurmur.
00:47:47:15 - 00:48:14:19
Big Al
It just hasn't happened. It just it just it can't happen. And because it can't happen it's a problem. Yeah. You know this is this is one that you know, from from what I understand there was there was some there was some funkiness, with Sean Lewis left. Okay. There was some funkiness that was around the organization. And when he when he left, when he was displaced.
00:48:14:21 - 00:48:21:10
Big Al
There's no funkiness as far as dysfunction with Pat Shurmur. He's just not great at what he does.
00:48:21:11 - 00:48:22:10
CJ
I totally agree.
00:48:22:11 - 00:48:22:28
Big Al
He's just not.
00:48:22:28 - 00:48:47:07
CJ
Great. I think that's a great analysis. I thought offense, this is a team that did the first series of the game against see you what they did the last they sent pressure and we never adjust. We never did anything different. We never took advantage or even attempted to really take advantage with against man coverage. With our, you know, rather talented receivers.
00:48:47:07 - 00:48:51:10
CJ
I just never saw anything that said, okay, we're going to make an adjustment.
00:48:51:10 - 00:48:52:28
Big Al
Let's get them out of this.
00:48:53:01 - 00:48:54:03
CJ
Let's get them this.
00:48:54:06 - 00:49:17:13
Big Al
Get them, get it out of let's get them out of this. Nothing. This defense. We got to make sure that they never play that defense. All the great once again, all the great offensive coordinator said I've ever played with. They will make you get out of, a blitz package because they run rubs, they'll run screens, they run draw.
00:49:17:13 - 00:49:23:21
Big Al
That's right. They will, they will, they will scar your ass up because they understand and know how to beat pressure.
00:49:23:21 - 00:49:26:22
CJ
It it looked like it was the first time that we saw pressure.
00:49:26:22 - 00:49:47:19
Big Al
And you know what that was? You know, I like to say it was the quarterback that wasn't the quarterback this week, man. That was not the quarterback last week. That was that was piss poor planning against the team that the game should have been. It should have been a game where the score should have looked like 17, 13.
00:49:47:20 - 00:49:48:00
CJ
Total.
00:49:48:00 - 00:49:50:17
Big Al
Because because they lost their starting quarterback.
00:49:50:17 - 00:50:06:11
CJ
And here's the thing. Here's the thing that that I'm looking at us defensively and I'm watching our pre-snap alignment. Our linebackers are six playing at six infinite depth. Right. We're not pressuring the quarterback. You got a true freshman quarterback.
00:50:06:13 - 00:50:09:02
Big Al
You need the threat. You'll need to pressure him. He didn't throw a shit.
00:50:09:04 - 00:50:10:03
CJ
He didn't have to.
00:50:10:03 - 00:50:11:08
Big Al
Exactly.
00:50:11:11 - 00:50:13:20
CJ
Exactly what I'm saying. You didn't pressure the run either.
00:50:13:21 - 00:50:29:19
Big Al
Yep. Yeah. But I'm saying but once again when you have guys on defense or that are in the hole okay, I mean, you go back and look at the first, run from the quarterback and you can see him cutting back and cutting across the field. When you go back and watch it, there's.
00:50:29:19 - 00:50:30:20
CJ
A guy sitting in the hole.
00:50:30:20 - 00:50:31:24
Big Al
Who missed the tackle.
00:50:31:24 - 00:50:33:13
CJ
Listen, no, I'm gonna tell you.
00:50:33:17 - 00:50:35:03
Big Al
So. So who was that on.
00:50:35:04 - 00:50:37:13
CJ
That is on personnel and.
00:50:37:13 - 00:50:43:01
Big Al
Okay, well, I'm just saying, you put a guy in position to make a play, and if he doesn't make the play. C.J. It looks.
00:50:43:01 - 00:50:44:17
CJ
Bad. But, bro, the.
00:50:44:17 - 00:50:47:12
Big Al
Last me with that 65 yard 60 yard run.
00:50:47:20 - 00:50:48:16
CJ
This and the first touch.
00:50:48:16 - 00:50:49:14
Big Al
Second play of the game.
00:50:49:14 - 00:50:59:27
CJ
The first touchdown the the the only defender that had a shot at a tackle was 15 yards deep. And it was the safety. No he was the old everyone else.
00:51:00:00 - 00:51:03:21
Big Al
It go back and watch it man. Go go go back and watch it. It was just simple.
00:51:03:21 - 00:51:12:26
CJ
Counter play where they kicked out on the quarterback with the pulling guard. They block down the D and gets reached. No.
00:51:12:26 - 00:51:19:09
Big Al
The receiver in motion had a charge. He had a charge at the at the dive. And quarterback.
00:51:19:10 - 00:51:25:03
CJ
No no no no no no no okay man okay. This I'm talking about not the quarterback run. I'm talking about.
00:51:25:04 - 00:51:26:17
Big Al
I'm talking about the first quarterback.
00:51:26:17 - 00:51:28:09
CJ
Run. I'm talking about the first touchdown.
00:51:28:12 - 00:51:29:16
Big Al
That was that. That was the.
00:51:29:16 - 00:51:32:06
CJ
Quarterback number one. The running back.
00:51:32:09 - 00:51:38:22
Big Al
The wasn't he the first. No no it was the quarterback on the second. The second play of the game was the one that scored the touchdown.
00:51:38:26 - 00:51:44:26
CJ
The I think that was the running back. The quarterback had the first big play on the first play of the game. Then they came back and it.
00:51:44:26 - 00:51:47:00
Big Al
Was a touchdown. It was like a 60 yard touchdown.
00:51:47:01 - 00:51:47:23
CJ
Hear me out man.
00:51:48:00 - 00:51:55:04
Big Al
He don't hey man maybe I got I got some things going on mentally. So if I'm out I'm off.
00:51:55:06 - 00:52:19:11
CJ
That was in the last segment. But but everyone was a kind of I mean, it was it was the way you draw a play up before a game. This is how it's going to work. Going to work just like that and gets reached the crack supposed to come down. He seals the linebacker. Pulling guard on the counter just blows up the corner and the safety is one on 115 yards.
00:52:19:11 - 00:52:38:00
CJ
Yes, yes 15 yards deep. My problem is this I you got to make this game muddy and ugly for a first ride, right. What about so and so you don't play guys at depth like you know you playing against an experienced quarterback who will carve you up and you're trying to keep him in front of you. You go get this dude.
00:52:38:01 - 00:52:48:19
CJ
You just put rush, press it and you pressure and waves from the front to quarterback this guy. Make him sit back there and throw against your man coverage and beat no.
00:52:48:19 - 00:52:51:18
Big Al
Make him throw against zone. Make him throw against zone.
00:52:51:18 - 00:52:53:07
CJ
Whatever you play behind pressure I.
00:52:53:07 - 00:53:01:04
Big Al
Don't know you don't even need pressure. You just need eight guys in the box on the cover three platform. You just need eight guys in the box and play cover three.
00:53:01:04 - 00:53:03:01
CJ
Yes, man. You know it's not man.
00:53:03:01 - 00:53:22:01
Big Al
It's just cop. Listen, listen, if you have seven blockers, we have eight defenders. If you have eight blockers, we have nine defenders in a cover three concept. Basically you're your plus one is the guy that you are adding to the defensive box to take the place of the quarterback. And I'm telling you, as a.
00:53:22:01 - 00:53:23:03
CJ
Flat defender, you.
00:53:23:03 - 00:53:37:16
Big Al
Don't have you really don't. You would have to give that up. Yeah, absolutely. Go ahead. Yeah. Hey God bless you. Until you get to the red zone. And then maybe we change the coverage. Yeah I mean that's that's what. Listen, if you want to play winning football and you want to stop the run, it's a cover three concept.
00:53:37:16 - 00:53:38:12
Big Al
Oh, it's man to man.
00:53:38:12 - 00:53:40:21
CJ
It's a cover three with a flat defender in the box.
00:53:40:25 - 00:53:44:03
Big Al
You don't you don't. You really don't have a flat defender and cover three.
00:53:44:03 - 00:53:47:19
CJ
And that's not a. Oh yeah you do. You really don't you. Have you talking.
00:53:47:19 - 00:54:09:07
Big Al
About. Listen you're flat. You listen. You only have you only have in a cover two defense. You have five zones okay, okay. You have two deep and you have five under. Right. Okay. Cover three. You have three deep and four under. So you unnaturally don't have somebody in the flat area. If somebody wants to run a speed out all day, they have it.
00:54:09:10 - 00:54:18:02
CJ
Oh listen, let's let's get off that man. Stick to defensive cover three absolutely has flat to fit is. What are you talking about man. They're late. They're late.
00:54:18:02 - 00:54:27:13
Big Al
If anything to the flat they don't have you don't have clear defining roles for flat defenders in a cover three. Oh it just does not.
00:54:27:13 - 00:54:31:13
CJ
You are taking cover three literally. You said you only have three defensive backs.
00:54:31:13 - 00:54:39:26
Big Al
No, I'm telling you that cover three is I'm telling you that unless you have some kind of invert on the cover three, I'm telling you right now, have.
00:54:39:26 - 00:54:40:22
CJ
An invert on a cover.
00:54:40:22 - 00:54:42:26
Big Al
Three. You don't, you don't.
00:54:42:28 - 00:54:45:04
CJ
A natural safety in a cover three, cover three.
00:54:45:05 - 00:54:47:16
Big Al
He's in the hole. He's in the.
00:54:47:16 - 00:54:50:06
CJ
Hole and he's the flat defender.
00:54:50:09 - 00:54:54:11
Big Al
He's not there immediately. So if somebody stood up and just threw the ball out to the flat.
00:54:54:15 - 00:54:56:08
CJ
Well the receiver is not there immediately.
00:54:56:11 - 00:54:58:09
Big Al
Sure you he could be. He could just be standing there.
00:54:58:10 - 00:54:59:20
CJ
Well then the corner. Get him.
00:54:59:22 - 00:55:03:10
Big Al
Okay. Well how can the corner get him if he's in cover three in there.
00:55:03:10 - 00:55:04:13
CJ
And it's a quick.
00:55:04:15 - 00:55:11:07
Big Al
Quick, please. Let's not do this. Let's not do this, okay? You want to talk offense? We talk offense. Please. Let's not talk about defense.
00:55:11:10 - 00:55:15:26
CJ
Bruh. I made my whole life was understanding concepts of what defensive backs do.
00:55:15:27 - 00:55:18:24
Big Al
I'm telling you, I played on defense and that is not how you cover three.
00:55:18:24 - 00:55:20:24
CJ
You never backpedal voluntarily.
00:55:20:28 - 00:55:24:01
Big Al
Sure I did. I won the Buckeyes award as a linebacker.
00:55:24:03 - 00:55:26:12
CJ
A hands down rush to pass the line.
00:55:26:16 - 00:55:34:14
Big Al
Okay, bro, I can't believe you. All right, what do you want to talk about? You been. I mean, you just. You just been an antagonist today.
00:55:34:16 - 00:55:35:04
CJ
I'm not just.
00:55:35:04 - 00:55:36:17
Big Al
Being an antagonist.
00:55:36:19 - 00:55:37:08
CJ
Anyway.
00:55:37:08 - 00:55:39:19
Big Al
Any way you like it, though. I know you like it.
00:55:39:22 - 00:56:02:16
CJ
You like. I like what you like, man. Wrong, bro. You give me a headache. What are you talking about? And I'm not wrong. Bottom line is this. I thought the offensive game plan was horrible. I thought the defensive game plan was horrible, and I thought the head coach completely miscalculated. He thought Prime thought that they had a great game.
00:56:02:19 - 00:56:24:10
CJ
Prime thought that they had a great week of practice in preparation for this game. And I think what oftentimes happens to coaches is and they mistake high energy for high focus, I think this was a high energy environment because a lot of the teammates of players who were getting the opportunity to play in this, in this,
00:56:24:12 - 00:56:25:06
Big Al
I think you're wrong.
00:56:25:11 - 00:56:29:20
CJ
Overall, you know, this is a bunch of energy, period.
00:56:29:23 - 00:56:42:01
Big Al
I think you're just wrong. You think because he helped out some kids that were going in the transfer portal, that it led to the University of Colorado losing this football game against Utah?
00:56:42:01 - 00:56:57:28
CJ
I think it contributed to a lack of focus on that, on the task at hand. And that was going on the road and playing a damn good Utah, if you recall. Think about it all. We talked about last show was how awesome that was. And we showed.
00:56:57:29 - 00:57:00:03
Big Al
We put we talked about assignment football.
00:57:00:04 - 00:57:00:28
CJ
We saw we talked.
00:57:00:28 - 00:57:04:18
Big Al
About assignment football against Iowa State assignment.
00:57:04:18 - 00:57:25:29
CJ
We showed clips of the week and how there was huge rah rah and energy around this portal scrimmage. Now, I think I think it's a brilliant idea still, but I think the watch out is high energy does not equal high focus. This was a team that lacked focus, and you could tell they were they were out of position.
00:57:26:02 - 00:57:27:24
CJ
They were slow to the ball.
00:57:27:27 - 00:57:34:28
Big Al
We got our coach offensively and defensively. We had guys that did not make plays that should have made plays and that's the bottom line.
00:57:35:03 - 00:57:38:09
CJ
I'm okay, I tell you, I think, I think you just you.
00:57:38:09 - 00:57:46:25
Big Al
Don't you don't you don't lose a game like that unless you are now coached. Okay. Yeah. First of all you got to get out, coach.
00:57:46:25 - 00:57:47:25
CJ
Absolutely. Okay.
00:57:47:25 - 00:57:56:11
Big Al
And then you have to have a bunch of guys on defense, miss tackles. You got to have a bunch of guys missed tackles. And that's exactly what happened.
00:57:56:11 - 00:58:09:06
CJ
Oh everything you just said put an equal sign next to it and say lack of focus because you don't get there. If you're focused and locked in on the task at hand. The underscore underlined. Yeah, that's a man.
00:58:09:06 - 00:58:34:07
Big Al
Listen, listen, listen. If if you if you walk into a game and you have simple rules okay. Let's just say you have simple rules. You walk into a game, you have simple rules and they are established. Day one. Like I said when we were talking about this, when we first started this conversation, the only thing that happens in the bye week is blocking and tackling.
00:58:34:09 - 00:58:35:02
CJ
Do you think that happened?
00:58:35:02 - 00:58:37:16
Big Al
We don't need nothing new in a bye week.
00:58:37:16 - 00:58:39:07
CJ
Do you think that happened in a bye week?
00:58:39:10 - 00:58:40:19
Big Al
I think it should have happened.
00:58:40:19 - 00:58:44:23
CJ
I don't ask you what should have happened. Of course. You just said you should have. Yes. You think it happened?
00:58:44:23 - 00:58:45:14
Big Al
I think it happened.
00:58:45:14 - 00:58:47:07
CJ
Okay. So blocking and tackling.
00:58:47:11 - 00:58:59:10
Big Al
Blocking and tackling. You know, running routes crisply quarterback throwing on, on time. All of those things that go into, fundamental football should have happened.
00:58:59:10 - 00:59:03:20
CJ
That week's talking about what should have happened. I don't I'm so tired of you talk.
00:59:03:21 - 00:59:04:12
Big Al
I wasn't it.
00:59:04:15 - 00:59:05:03
CJ
Was something.
00:59:05:05 - 00:59:05:19
Big Al
I wasn't at.
00:59:05:19 - 00:59:08:24
CJ
Practice. Well, I'm telling you what. Given what we saw on the game and you.
00:59:08:24 - 00:59:10:05
Big Al
Weren't at practice either.
00:59:10:07 - 00:59:11:06
CJ
You don't know where I was.
00:59:11:06 - 00:59:11:21
Big Al
You weren't at.
00:59:11:21 - 00:59:16:13
CJ
Practice. I don't know where I was. Look, man, I don't tell you anything else. You want to win again?
00:59:16:13 - 00:59:24:19
Big Al
No, I'm the same man. I think today you're just off. I mean, it's not one of your best days, so I'm just being honest with you. Today is not one of your best.
00:59:24:19 - 00:59:47:11
CJ
Well, perhaps I'm. I'm consistent with my my fellow Colorado Buffaloes football team. And I hope to have a better day this upcoming weekend. Like, I believe the buffs will against the, Arizona Wildcats. By the way, it's a 5:00 kickoff. The biggest and best tailgate party is happening at the Boulder Marriott. About 3:00, the Big Al and C.J. show will kick off.
00:59:47:11 - 01:00:10:17
CJ
And, this is just a day party. You know, DJ fedora is going to be part of it. It's just a big Ole day party at the Bo to Marriott off Canyon. Make sure you come up. We got all kinds of giveaways by the way. We're giving away rooms, night stays. We're giving away food with food vouchers. And of course, you know, you can come out, let the big fella man and tell him how absolutely ridiculous this takes on Tuesday.
01:00:10:19 - 01:00:37:09
Big Al
I tell you, I tell you the, the Tuesday show this week. There are a few things that you wrong about the, the white cornerback being discriminated against, the black quarterback being discriminated against. And see you not having focus. Thirdly, I just think that you just been wrong. I mean, if we continue to show you're going to be more wrong, well, the longer this show goes.
01:00:37:10 - 01:00:41:13
Big Al
Well, well, if you want that to be one, you want to you want to quit the show right now?
01:00:41:17 - 01:00:42:19
CJ
You want to know I got I.
01:00:42:19 - 01:00:43:19
Big Al
Needed to heal up out of.
01:00:43:19 - 01:00:46:00
CJ
Here. I need one more shot. Would you sit back, man?
01:00:46:03 - 01:00:50:22
Big Al
Well, no, because you got me on the edge of my chair because I couldn't. I couldn't believe what you just actually said.
01:00:50:23 - 01:01:14:08
CJ
Well, you too big to believe a forward like that. Thank you. Relax, man. Take that number. Coach Prime did have another observation that before we get out of here, I gotta get to. Because on this one, I absolutely agree with, man. I got to get your opinion on this. I got a message. I want to get out, but I gotta get your opinion.
01:01:14:08 - 01:01:17:00
CJ
Let's see what Coach Brown was talking. The process of building something is no.
01:01:17:00 - 01:01:17:17
Big Al
One faces.
01:01:17:17 - 01:01:18:19
CJ
In his world. Wow.
01:01:18:21 - 01:01:20:13
Big Al
How do we exude.
01:01:20:13 - 01:01:22:19
CJ
Patience when we could call a right now and get.
01:01:22:19 - 01:01:25:01
Big Al
A piece of delivery right here?
01:01:25:03 - 01:01:32:07
CJ
That then that you could call and get a ride waiting outside for you. Everything is expeditious in this country.
01:01:32:07 - 01:01:36:25
Big Al
Everyone wants the quick fix. Two quick things. You could you got mail order brides to, right?
01:01:36:25 - 01:01:38:13
CJ
You get married, you know.
01:01:38:13 - 01:01:40:23
Big Al
Right away you get a bill. You could come in.
01:01:40:23 - 01:01:49:00
CJ
Here, flag flowers on the wedding and leave thick as a snicker.
01:01:49:02 - 01:01:52:09
Speaker 3
Amen.
01:01:52:11 - 01:02:09:13
CJ
I just want to say one thing. Listen to each is. All right, I get it, you know? Do what you gotta do. But some of these Bibles, it's just sisters. And I'm talking about sisters of all races like that right there.
01:02:09:16 - 01:02:11:29
Big Al
Oh, my God.
01:02:12:02 - 01:02:15:02
CJ
What? What the hell is going on? What is.
01:02:15:02 - 01:02:15:19
Big Al
That?
01:02:15:20 - 01:02:16:16
Speaker 3
This is.
01:02:16:22 - 01:02:18:22
Big Al
The. What is that?
01:02:18:24 - 01:02:19:08
Speaker 3
The little.
01:02:19:08 - 01:02:21:09
Big Al
Pumpkins. This is Halloween.
01:02:21:11 - 01:02:22:11
Speaker 3
Amen.
01:02:22:14 - 01:02:33:04
CJ
You go back. That's two. That's a Bible, man. A Brazilian butt lift for those who don't know. And for some reason. But. And I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna put some of this blame on you.
01:02:33:06 - 01:02:37:19
Big Al
That's asinine.
01:02:37:22 - 01:02:39:15
CJ
And it's,
01:02:39:18 - 01:02:44:05
Big Al
It's my first. Y'all all wait for this show, y'all. I will play something on this show that I'm not ready for.
01:02:44:05 - 01:02:45:12
Speaker 3
Amen.
01:02:45:15 - 01:02:46:09
Big Al
Always do it.
01:02:46:15 - 01:02:52:25
CJ
You are complicit. And what we're seeing now, there's an epidemic, of this stuff going on. And I just want to tell y'all.
01:02:53:01 - 01:03:12:23
Big Al
You know, you know, I haven't ordered a pizza that come to my house ever in my life. Really? I've never ordered a pizza. If I. If I order wings, I go get them, you know? Okay, okay. You know, a, if there's something that takes time. I'm used to it. Taking time, I just wait.
01:03:12:23 - 01:03:15:19
CJ
Well, you old school, I mean, I'm, but we live in.
01:03:15:22 - 01:03:21:03
Big Al
But I do have an Uber account. Finally. And that's a whole nother story. Not not today, but today.
01:03:21:03 - 01:03:23:14
Speaker 3
Okay, okay.
01:03:23:16 - 01:03:30:27
CJ
Okay. We'll get to that some other day. But do I just want to tell you, look, again, your sisters of all backgrounds and races.
01:03:30:28 - 01:03:33:23
Big Al
Background for real.
01:03:33:26 - 01:03:41:04
CJ
Stop it please. Like whatever the big fella gave you. It's it's cool and it's cool.
01:03:41:10 - 01:03:43:17
Big Al
You talking about. You talking about the big fella upstairs?
01:03:43:17 - 01:03:45:24
CJ
Yeah. Like whatever he gave you is like.
01:03:45:27 - 01:03:47:16
Big Al
So you don't like the extras.
01:03:47:19 - 01:03:48:23
CJ
That's horrible, man.
01:03:48:24 - 01:03:49:06
Big Al
You don't like.
01:03:49:06 - 01:03:50:07
CJ
The. Did you? I mean, it.
01:03:50:07 - 01:03:52:20
Big Al
Looked like you like it when they see us. Do you like it when they.
01:03:52:23 - 01:03:54:05
CJ
Like a posture of legs?
01:03:54:05 - 01:03:58:19
Big Al
But you're saying, do you like it when they fix their teeth?
01:03:58:21 - 01:04:01:19
CJ
I mean, it's fine. Yeah. Braces? Sure. Oh.
01:04:01:21 - 01:04:05:25
Big Al
Sure. You like it when they fix upstairs?
01:04:05:27 - 01:04:11:02
CJ
Can you pull that? Can you pull that picture back up, please?
01:04:11:04 - 01:04:11:11
CJ
Do you.
01:04:11:11 - 01:04:12:15
Big Al
Like that? Listen.
01:04:12:17 - 01:04:14:11
CJ
Do you like that?
01:04:14:13 - 01:04:15:21
Big Al
I mean.
01:04:15:24 - 01:04:16:27
Speaker 3
Yeah.
01:04:16:29 - 01:04:22:04
Big Al
If that was my woman, she asked me how she looked.
01:04:22:07 - 01:04:23:01
Speaker 3
What would you say?
01:04:23:01 - 01:04:28:21
Big Al
Like I tell, she had to pull them down. Groceries back.
01:04:28:24 - 01:04:30:26
Speaker 3
No. You know, see what? See, you.
01:04:30:26 - 01:04:38:08
Big Al
Know, you know, the president turning off the the snap benefits don't look like number groceries back there.
01:04:38:11 - 01:04:53:29
CJ
Amen, Amen. I just but you know, you've given you've given to me and you've given these two men you in to many of these women, these young ladies a false sense of what beauty is, man. And you're complicit in this. Who are you? You. That's just.
01:04:54:02 - 01:04:56:00
Big Al
I just don't I have no, I have all.
01:04:56:05 - 01:04:57:12
CJ
Hey, listen, I must say to.
01:04:57:12 - 01:04:58:14
Big Al
Them, no words.
01:04:58:14 - 01:05:01:18
CJ
Like I'ma say to you. Stop it.
01:05:01:18 - 01:05:08:29
Big Al
Please stop till it's called it out. He said nobody's patient. You won't go to the gym and and do your glute workout.
01:05:09:00 - 01:05:09:17
CJ
Do a squat.
01:05:09:18 - 01:05:13:02
Big Al
You know you won't do your squats. You won't walk in high heels on the treadmill.
01:05:13:02 - 01:05:16:02
CJ
What do they even put in? What is that? I don't know, man.
01:05:16:02 - 01:05:21:00
Big Al
I just, you know, I, I just I don't know I don't know what that is, but, you know, I.
01:05:21:00 - 01:05:25:28
CJ
Was googling it, man. And they said it like it has a certain smell to it to.
01:05:26:00 - 01:05:30:10
Big Al
Smell like ass.
01:05:30:12 - 01:05:53:21
CJ
And we'll see you this Saturday at 3:00 at the Boulder Marriott. It is a day party. Come on out, win prizes, hang out with your boy Big Al and C.J. it's going to be a blast. And let's root this Colorado Buffalo team on the victory. Have a good one, everybody.