The Broncos are 9–2 and officially on top of the AFC after a walk-off win over the Kansas City Chiefs — and Big Al is officially riding the Super Bowl train. CJ presses for clarity on whether Denver truly has the “mettle and moxie” to make a deep postseason run, while the guys break down Vance Joseph’s elite defensive turnaround, late-game execution, and what’s made this season so improbable. They also react to CU Athletic Director Rick George announcing he’s stepping down. Al and CJ share personal stories from decades of knowing him, what his departure means for Coach Prime, and why the next AD hire is one of the most important in Colorado history.
The Broncos’ wild 22–19 walk-off win over the Chiefs launches the top of the show, as Big Al and CJ debate whether Denver is officially a championship-caliber team. They examine why the Broncos’ fourth-quarter toughness has become their identity, how Vance Joseph has completely reshaped the defense despite major injuries, and why Sean Payton is finally coaching complementary football that matches the roster’s strengths.
The conversation shifts to college football as CU Athletic Director Rick George announces he’s stepping down. Al and CJ reflect on their long personal connection with Rick dating back to the ’80s, his impact on Colorado athletics, the move back to the Big 12, and how his departure affects Coach Prime’s future in Boulder. They also discuss what CU needs in its next AD and why stability is crucial as college football inches toward a new era of super-conferences.
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CJ
Are the Broncos the Kings of the NFL? And what next with See You with athletic director Rick George stepping down. What does that mean for Coach Prime? Let's talk about it.
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CJ
Right.
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CJ
Hey, man, you, how you doing, man? I just gotta let you all in on just a little, insight before we get started here. The big fella is known for coming into the show wearing slacks or pants, a joggers or whatever you have on. You can see right now he's always fashionably dressed, but, about three out of every four shows, he forgets to lotion his ankles.
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CJ
So thank God Ashley has some notes because I was about to tear his. I was get I was about to get him. Y'all. How are you doing, man?
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Big Al
I'm doing well, man. Just a little hung over after last night's game. I mean, what a fantastic game from the Denver Broncos and the way that they look last night, it just gave me so much hope that this team may be ahead of schedule as far as, Super Bowl and all of those kind of whoa whoa.
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CJ
Whoa, slow.
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Big Al
Down.
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CJ
Slow down.
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Big Al
Man. Well, listen, man, you know, just looking at the, looking at the standings and looking at the teams that are ahead of the Denver Broncos, you're going to find zero.
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CJ
That's right. Okay.
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Big Al
The way that they played, the way that they have exuded confidence in the fourth quarter in particular, has championship mettle to it. So I'm, I'm, I am I am rightfully, jumping on the, Broncos Super Bowl train right now.
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CJ
Look, the Denver Broncos, nine and two tied for the league's best record with the New England Patriots of all team, of all, teams. And then you have Indianapolis, the Colts at eight and two, the three top teams in the AFC. It is it has been a most improbable sort of 11 1011 game beginning of the season sort of stretch in the league.
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CJ
Who would have thought that those were the three three teams that were ahead of the conference at this point? But before we get all tall, that man we got to talk about this game was significant. 2219, again, a walk off field goal, to secure victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. I think at this point, nine years, the Chiefs reigning supreme in this division has officially come to an end.
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CJ
I shouldn't say mathematically, but officially it's come to an end. There's no way the Denver Broncos squander this league in this division at this point of the season. Is there?
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Big Al
I don't believe that they necessarily squander a playoff opportunity.
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CJ
That I'm talking about winning the division.
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Big Al
Well, I think that is, that's still up in the air. That's really still up in the air.
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CJ
But anyway, with two minutes ago, you were talking about Super Bowl, now you talking about.
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Big Al
The well, getting to the playoffs and winning a Super Bowl has nothing to do with anything except being able to win big games in the clutch. And, when you look at the Denver Broncos and the way that they win football games is in the fourth quarter. So you don't you don't necessarily need to win the division to win a Super Bowl.
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Big Al
You know what, as a matter of fact, I think I'm wearing something right here that says that you don't have to do that.
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CJ
I don't think that's what.
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Big Al
That that's what it is. That's what it is. That's why.
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CJ
You guys were you guys did.
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Big Al
Not win the division. We did not win the division. But you have to have the metal. You have to have the stuff inside of you to, actually win in the playoffs. And the Broncos have shown, time and time again that they are a fourth quarter team. There's no game that's out of reach for them. And quite frankly, it's been, it's been refreshing and rewarding to see them play at this kind of standard.
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Big Al
It's, it's, it's made me really, really happy to see them. You accept the challenge? Yeah.
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CJ
This has been a good week for me. We got senior day up in both. That's going to really make you happy. Broncos winning makes you happy. It's always good.
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Big Al
When the nuggets are playing well. The Avs are playing well I mean it's it's it's it's it's it's it's going well right now.
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CJ
Happy times in Colorado. I'm going to disagree with you about one thing. Six games left for the Denver Broncos. They're up what four games in the division over the Chargers.
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Big Al
Chargers? The Chargers have four losses. The Broncos have to know.
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CJ
The Chargers have at least five losses. They just got blown out by.
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Big Al
Jacksonville I know that I think that was their fourth loss.
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CJ
At any rate with six games left with the lead that you have, you can't. You would have to lose four of the last six to lose the division. And if that were the case, this conversation sounds completely different about the Broncos entering the playoffs with a chance to actually make a significant run.
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Big Al
Yeah. I think I think that, you know, a football season, quite honestly, is not determined, about who your real makeup of your team is. And really until, right around Thanksgiving, I mean, you have 12 games that you probably have under your belt by that time. Hopefully you've given yourself a chance. But the last four games, you go on a run, how many times do we see the Patriots over the years, over the years, make late season runs to get in the championship form?
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Big Al
And I think that the Denver Broncos and every other team that's, going to have a championship formula is going to have the same kind of run up where you have, excellence in December and I think that's when you have a championship opportunity, when you have championship mettle, it starts to show itself in December. Right?
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CJ
Right. Well, I got to tell you, man, I know we've, we've we've sung his praises before in the National Football League. Football fans across this country are singing his praises. I can't I can't say enough about the job that Vance Joseph is doing on the defensive side. You look at this team, the two, two of the top performers on defense.
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CJ
Singleton, who's the leading tackler? Out. Patrick Stratton on IR. He's been out the last several games. And this defense just continues continues the row. Big fella. Do you realize the Broncos have only scored over 24 points in four of their 11 games. And here they sit at nine and two. What this defense is doing I think about yes yesterday's game against the Chiefs and Kansas City came out early and they did something very smart.
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CJ
I don't know if you caught this man I don't know. It depends on how many sips you were in.
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Big Al
At this point.
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CJ
But Kansas City did some very smart. They threw the ball deep early in the game, and that was in an attempt. The way I saw it is that was a warning to Vance Joseph to say, hey, help your guys out on the back end. Because if you if you blitz, if you send all that pressure and leave them naked, we going we going to hit big.
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CJ
And you saw in that game as I saw it unfold the Broncos didn't send a lot of pressure early. They got back to it later in the game. They did. And I just thought again the test match between the Kansas City Chiefs offense and what BJ was doing defensively was one of those subplots in the game that was I thought was amazing.
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CJ
And once again, B.J. down it up, caught it up right, and won the test match.
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Big Al
Yeah, I think that, I think certainly our great friend, and former teammate Vance Joseph is clearly in the driver's seat for several opportunities to become a head coach again in this league. His defense is, I think they have the kind of mettle that he has as a as, defensive coordinator. He doesn't panic. Right.
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Big Al
And, and and he has a plan, and he works his plan. And I think that his plan is one that is quite honestly, it's just, it's really brilliant. It's really brilliant to watch, him call defensive football games because he's got a lot of the weight. Phillips influence on him, who he coached with and, with the Houston Texans and, that that championship, DNA that Wade brought to the Denver Broncos for that 2015 season was fantastic.
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Big Al
He's got a lot of that stuff to him, but he's also got enough moxie to mix and match because he does not have the league's defensive MVP in the lineup. And Patrick, so ten so I think what he's done there has been great. But what's more important to me is that Vijay has put the defense in position to to play well every single week.
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Big Al
What's more important to me right now is that Sean Payton has finally adopted his game plan to mimic the defense that he has. He's letting his defense get him to the fourth quarter. The defense is coming up big for him, and they're winning games in ways that Sean Payton is not used to winning, you know, and it's like you said they've only scored 24 points or more in four games.
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Big Al
Which means that if you adopt this game plan of just keep it close and less win it in the fourth quarter, chances are your defense is going to deliver. And matter of fact, yesterday, you know, watching the football game against the Kansas City Chiefs and the Denver Broncos, Patrick Mahomes had the ball with seven minutes to go twice.
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Big Al
And there were two three and outs. Yeah that that's incredible. Well when the game was on the line right when the game was on the line, the Kansas City Chiefs went three and out.
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CJ
Right. Now just slight correction here. You said they had it with seven minutes to go twice. I don't think that's possible because that means the clock never started.
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Big Al
Well I'm just saying they had three separate possession.
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CJ
Point as well. Take him I got to give and it's always something.
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Big Al
It's always something's.
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CJ
Gotta give you some props. Metal and moxie. You're on your A-game today, bro.
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Big Al
Yeah. I mean, I just think that, you know, in football in particular, what happens is, in football, what usually happens is that you become a product of the guy who's coaching you. If you have a very smart defense, it's because you have a very smart coordinator. If you have a very tough defense because you have a very tough coordinator, I believe that you are a prime example of who your coach is.
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Big Al
And clearly on this team, you know, they have excellent coaches. You know, as a matter of fact, one of the questions, that I posed to you before this show is who has the best coaching staff in the NFL right now? And I because because I think the improvements from some of the young core, some of the young quarterbacks from year one, a year two happens because they have, better coaching.
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Big Al
But also what's happened in Indianapolis and Indianapolis is also a credit to that organization because they have great coaching. So I think that this team right now, I think this team right now has a top five coaching staff. And that is, what I was looking forward to seeing, the matchup between Vance Joseph and, Vance Joseph and and Andy Reid.
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Big Al
Right. I was looking at see Spagnola sees back Nola and, Sean Payton and you know what? And then, of course, we got two veteran special team coaches that were, legendary in this league and how that would match up, it ends up being the special teams, ends up winning the game for the Denver Broncos because it was a push every place else.
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Big Al
So, yeah, I just think that it's a this is a fantastic coaching staff. I think it's a fantastic coaching staff.
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CJ
You know, it's interesting how you describe the match up, right? Offense, Broncos offense against the opposing team's defense, invites. And, you know, the opposing team's defense against the Broncos, I thought and the thing that I'm and you mentioned it, the thing that I've been most impressed with is how the coordination between Sean Payton and Vance Joseph, I've always thought until this year that it wasn't they weren't playing complementary football.
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CJ
Right. It was as if there were two different units that were just simply doing their individual, you know, unit things. I see the coordination. I see the compliment between the two. You pointed it out. We don't have to put the ball at risk. A punt isn't a bad play. The defense will get us the ball back.
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CJ
I don't have to score 35 points to win football games. And, you know. Yeah, 4 or 5 weeks ago, we were asking ourselves the question or even perhaps coming to the conclusion that until they figure this offense of out and get some points scored, they can't sustain winning football. But now you just you go into a game assuming that if the offense score over 20 points, you have a great shot of winning a football game.
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Big Al
Yeah. And I think, going into the game yesterday, that was a great graphic that I think CBS poll together that showed that the top three scoring defenses in the NFL reside in the AFC West. You have the Kansas City Chiefs, you have the Denver Broncos and the Chargers going into, week 12 last week. And, you know, it was, excuse me, was it week 11 last week?
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Big Al
If we Broncos have not had a buy yet. So that was week ten.
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CJ
This is their in their bye week now.
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Big Al
So this is that was week 11. Going into week 11 the Denver Broncos were I think second in scoring defense. You see people may try to equate great defense with winning games. But the greatest defenses don't allow teams to score points. It's not about third down defense. It's not about, yards per carry. That all that stuff.
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Big Al
It's really the only thing that matters is scoring defense. Now, we're not on a historical pace. To be one of those, a historic defense is like the 2000 Ravens or the 85 bears, by the way, who just celebrated, their anniversary, Super Bowl 85. Yes, yes. And, so Brian Cabral, a former coach at the University of Colorado, being celebrated, how about that on the field at Chicago?
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Big Al
And, I thought that was fantastic. That's just a side note, but we're not in that category. But we are in today's NFL, one of the top 2 or 3 defenses that exists as far as scoring defense goes. And we are a great take away defense. We, sacked defense. Daquan McMillan yesterday. Two huge sacks against Patrick Mahomes one in the half and then one really to end the game.
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Big Al
I just thought that that was just I just thought that that was timely. It was maybe, you know, maybe the brilliance of Vance Joseph again, but also that this defense, they don't think they can win games. They truly know they can win games.
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CJ
No doubt about it. And you mentioned, three two of the three sacks came from the secondary from the quarterback position. And if you watch the game, Casey did a fairly good job of chipping and yes, bodies. Yes. Benito and Cooper, and as a result, you noticed the pressure again, another in-game adjustment. The pressure came from sort of the traditional positions and dialing up quarterback blitzes that at the right time in order to get that pressure in the right moment.
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CJ
Again, just a an amazing job there done by this Broncos defense. And Vijay, I do have one soap box soap box issue I got to get off. And, I'm not just saying this because we saw a lot of it yesterday, but we've gotten to a point in the league. I think there has to be an adjustment made on pass interference calls.
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CJ
It should not be a spot foul call any any more. I got it 30 years ago. When you know, teams were throwing the ball 20, 22 times a game. And you want it to promote more scoring in the game. Got it. And today's game with this many times as the ball is being thrown. And the fact that now if you're third and long, just throw a deep ball, you got a 5050 shot at getting a 45 yard play because, you know, it's likely it will.
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CJ
It's not likely, but it's very possible that it could be a pass interference call. And offenses are, practicing how to draw pass interference calls, particularly in one on one situations. And I just think that's unfair. If it's an offensive pass interference, it's 15 yards the other way. If it's a defensive passing offense, I think it should match the same 15 yards like in college football.
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CJ
It's just simply be a 15 yard penalty. I don't like the rule as it is. It gives an absolute unfair advantage to the offense. And you know, it's already a league that whose rules are skewed or skewed to promote more scoring. This puts the defense at a huge disadvantage. And, I think it's it's unfair to defend to, particularly the cornerbacks.
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Big Al
Yeah. I just think that, it goes to show you that, when you have a cornerback, when when league MVP, it just shows you how good he is in those situations. But the, the job of the cornerback is to be patient and to be in the hip pocket of the receiver and to defend the hands at the last possible moment to make sure that there is no, reception.
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Big Al
And if you can get your head around quick enough, possibly challenge for an interception, the rules are in, they're not going to change.
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CJ
What do you mean they're not going to change?
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Big Al
They're not going to change. They're not going to change because it is a game changing rule. You know, it's a if you could just stop and grab guys, in the NFL that after you get beat, you know, everybody would do it, you know.
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CJ
And so what difference does it make. They're calling them all the time.
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Big Al
Saying but if it's at the end of game at the end this is madness. The end, half end of a game. And, you have a guy who tackles the wide receiver. It's a 15 yard penalty and you fit. Now you are you know, you don't get the maximum effect of the penalty.
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CJ
It's a 15 yard penalty.
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Big Al
Yeah, but if you're throwing the ball from the 50 yard line, then that means now is just now. The next play is a one time play that's happening on the 35.
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CJ
That's a big penalty I'm in field goal range.
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Big Al
No no no you're down by five bro.
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CJ
Look man I'm.
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Big Al
Saying it's a I understand what you're saying here. But in reality you don't want you don't. That that from a guy who played on the defensive side of the ball. You just need to cornerbacks to be better. You got to have they got to be better.
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CJ
But we're not talking about being better. We're talking about an unfair advantage offense.
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Big Al
I mean, the entire NFL is based on offensive production.
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CJ
Got it. And what I'm saying is that it's so skewed in one direction now.
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Big Al
It is. It's always been.
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CJ
Skewed. Well it's becoming well. The league has has created rules. Can't hit guys anymore right. If they're not the league has created rules to skew it more towards the offense. They've done that and I think they're getting out of balance. I don't want to belabor the issue bro. You're wrong on this. I'm right. I can't believe I thought I'd have.
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CJ
This would be a consensus because you're a defensive player. But, I guess you just want cornerbacks. Be better.
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Big Al
Don't don't cornerbacks need to be better. Touch. You have to be more patient. And you have to learn to play the hands better. And, that's just the way it goes. That's why these guys, I think they're the best athletes on the field, without a doubt. You know, I think tight ends are second. But you're talking about, you know, trying to read and react to a ball that's in the air, turning and twisting and running.
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Big Al
And, I mean, it's just the defensive backs are, they're fantastic.
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CJ
Well, they're put in a in an impossible position. And I'm afraid that one of these ridiculous pass interference call calls, as it has in the past, is going to be the difference between a team that a team getting a win that perhaps they didn't deserve or shouldn't get because the.
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Big Al
Rules where it happened. Yeah. I mean, it happened in, it happened in the Super Bowl with the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs. And then the first time that they met when, it was, I thought it was a bogus call, but it was the right call because it was technically after five yards. And, the referee called, pass interference.
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Big Al
And then the Chiefs got a chance to get the ball back and score a touchdown and win a Super Bowl. But, I don't I don't think that the rule is going to change. I think reputations, why those calls get called, which is even worse. Yeah. Which is even worse. The reputation of a player will sometime, yield what kind of call you get, whether it's a pass interference or a non-call.
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CJ
Now, I think to that, which is bullshit. Riley is being. He's a guy who's sort of. He's earned his reputation of being a a grabby corner. Right? He gets a lot of he panics.
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Big Al
He panics at the end. And at the.
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CJ
End you made I know we would tongue in cheek, but I think you talk about, you know, not treating the white corners right. I think this is one where he actually has a case. I think that they're not treating a man right. He's a damn good football player. Like love how he plays the game really good. And I think he has he has a reputation.
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CJ
He's getting a lot of balls thrown out, especially when Pat Sutan is on the field. But I think about half the penalties against that guy are 5050 and he does not. He never gets the benefit of.
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Big Al
But but C.J., the thing that made Patrick Sifton special from the from the day that he was drafted and until now is that he does not panic.
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CJ
Well that's why he's the defensive player.
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Big Al
He it is. Yeah. But he's one.
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CJ
One.
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Big Al
Yeah but but but it's a skill set. It's a skill set. And, Riley Moss is going to have to learn to get better at not panicking when the balls in the air.
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CJ
Totally. Hey, listen, that that that's that's his.
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Big Al
That's his. That's his flaw as a corner.
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CJ
No question. I think he does. He he's in position. He's almost always in position.
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Big Al
He's always in position.
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CJ
And he's.
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Big Al
Always he's a great athlete. He's always in position. And at the last moment he just does. He just does things that the great ones don't do.
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CJ
That's right.
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Big Al
You know the great ones, the great ones, you know, find a way to put a hand on the lower hip. We're going to guide the receiver and get their head around and defend the ball and not, you know, do the things that he's doing and that and that is that's something that he can work on and, give him a chance to, get better over the next year.
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CJ
Look, there's no question about it. And that's why when we say the great ones, there's one great one for every 35 others, right? It's like saying, you know, Garrett as a, as a pass rusher. All the, all the other pass rushers just have to learn how to do it like he does because no no no no no.
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CJ
There's a reason why he's great. He's great. And everyone else is trying to emulate them. Emulate them. And and it ain't it ain't work.
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Big Al
You know it. You know, it's, but plan, defensive back is not like saying, you know, we have Barry Sanders type movement like nobody else is going to have that movement, right? I mean, nobody has read them. And I don't think in our lifetime we're going to see another Barry Sanders type movement from a running back. But cornerback, you just legitimately just have to be more disciplined.
00;24;49;07 - 00;25;09;19
Big Al
Yeah, this guy just has to be more disciplined when the ball is in the air. That's something that you don't have to be. You have a unique skill set to do. It's just practice. It's just practice over and over and, and you know, you don't want to give up the pass, I get that. But at times you know, you're going to give up a pet.
00;25;09;19 - 00;25;18;20
Big Al
You're going to give up a play or a pass. You're going to have to live with it. It's better than getting the pass interference where they get the yardage.
00;25;18;22 - 00;25;42;24
CJ
15 yards, pass interference. That rules should be changed. Hey, man, before we get off this Broncos again, we talked about nine and two share of the best record in the league. Are you are you ready to make a bold prediction or bold statement? You were talking kind of bump your gums about it earlier. I noticed when the show started, you didn't quite go as far as you were going prior to, did you, over the last ten minutes.
00;25;42;24 - 00;25;43;13
CJ
Back off that.
00;25;43;16 - 00;25;50;29
Big Al
No, I think the Broncos have as good a chance to get to the Super Bowl as anybody that's playing football right now. And and.
00;25;50;29 - 00;25;55;20
CJ
What's. Oh wait a minute. Hold on, hold on I how what kind of milk toast comment is that?
00;25;55;26 - 00;25;56;17
Big Al
Well let me tell you.
00;25;56;17 - 00;25;59;24
CJ
You have as good a chance to get to the Super Bowl as anyone.
00;25;59;26 - 00;26;41;12
Big Al
It depends. Right. So if you get if you get a healthy Jacksonville Jaguars in the first, I assume a healthy Baltimore Ravens in the first round of the playoffs, that's a different task. Let's just say that you get, the Houston Texans in the first round. You know, the Indianapolis Colts. That's a different task. But if you get a team that's had a lot of success and starting to play well once again down the stretch, you just it it tends to lead to those veteran teams, getting those wins.
00;26;41;12 - 00;27;10;06
Big Al
But I'm saying if we get the matchups that we need, you can say let's just say there's another team that's an upstart team that is that has made their way. Let's say that, let's just say like the, the Steelers without Aaron Rodgers. Okay. You get a win there. Okay. Let's just say that you, your next opponent is let's let's call it the, Indianapolis Colts who've not had this kind of, longevity in the playoffs.
00;27;10;06 - 00;27;10;20
Big Al
And they have.
00;27;10;20 - 00;27;11;04
CJ
Not been.
00;27;11;04 - 00;27;33;26
Big Al
Here. They haven't been there. Okay, you get another you got favorable attempt. And then when the biggest game of the year happens, the AFC West. Oh I say the AFC championship game, you get a team like the Buffalo Bills. That's when you got you have a chance. And if the game is at home you have a great chance to win.
00;27;33;26 - 00;27;48;16
Big Al
So I'm, I'm I think that this team has championship mettle. They don't have any real traditional flaws, offensively, defensively or special teams wise. They don't have a traditional, like.
00;27;48;21 - 00;27;54;18
CJ
I think offensively they do have that. They they've not shown any consistency. But they win.
00;27;54;20 - 00;28;06;11
Big Al
But they're not doing the things that losing teams do. They don't. They're not turning the ball over. They don't turn the ball over. They don't put the ball on the ground for fumbles. They give themselves a chance.
00;28;06;11 - 00;28;28;07
CJ
I'm kind of shocked that you a little bit, man. The way you just heads that I thought you'd be a little bit more. Because I'm thinking more about an actual breakdown of the capacity of the team itself. Just the Broncos. Yeah. Not forecasting what matchups might give the team an advantage. I'm talking about. Does this team have the metal and the moxie to make a run at it?
00;28;28;07 - 00;28;31;04
CJ
Just because I think they do. What's happening at the Valley?
00;28;31;07 - 00;28;32;14
Big Al
I think they do. Okay.
00;28;32;14 - 00;28;36;07
CJ
So so so stop trying to create matchups but give them a favorable hold on.
00;28;36;07 - 00;28;40;20
Big Al
I'm telling you how they win or get to the Super Bowl. Yeah.
00;28;40;20 - 00;28;41;20
CJ
You when you when you play.
00;28;41;20 - 00;28;45;15
Big Al
Off game yeah you win you playoff game. But but it depends on who your matchups are.
00;28;45;21 - 00;28;57;09
CJ
It always does. But that's not I mean we're not it's 11 games into the season you're not already predicting. Well if we play them we can beat them. But if we play them maybe not. Like what is.
00;28;57;09 - 00;29;12;28
Big Al
That. That's the reality of it. You know, I gotta tell you a story. So we were we were getting ready to play Super Bowl 33, in Miami, Florida.
00;29;12;28 - 00;29;15;17
CJ
So this wasn't that this was the year after the Jacksonville game.
00;29;15;19 - 00;29;18;07
Big Al
This was the year after we won the first Super Bowl.
00;29;18;09 - 00;29;19;09
CJ
So this was the second.
00;29;19;10 - 00;29;20;12
Big Al
This is second Super Bowl.
00;29;20;12 - 00;29;21;20
CJ
It was two years after the.
00;29;21;22 - 00;29;40;10
Big Al
Second second Super Bowl run. Yes. We were playing the Atlanta Falcons. And they played before us that day. And the play the Atlanta Falcons played the oh Detroit in the amount of Falcons played the Minnesota Vikings.
00;29;40;10 - 00;29;45;09
CJ
Who was supposed to win that I think they were what 15 and one or something that.
00;29;45;11 - 00;29;45;16
Big Al
Was.
00;29;45;16 - 00;29;46;28
CJ
Breaking all kinds of offense.
00;29;46;28 - 00;29;56;01
Big Al
Yes. Man Chris Carter you know Randy Reed Randy Moss you know, I think I think Randall was the quarterback.
00;29;56;01 - 00;29;57;24
CJ
No. Dante Culpepper I.
00;29;57;27 - 00;29;59;27
Big Al
I don't know, it was Randall or.
00;30;00;00 - 00;30;03;12
CJ
I think it was Dante because they were just throwing the ball down. That mean I can't.
00;30;03;12 - 00;30;36;07
Big Al
Remember who was the quarterback. But I do remember this. I do remember this before the game. And so they they they lost the NFC Championship game. And the Atlanta Falcons was going to the playoffs. And this was my remember. Now we are we are sitting back in Denver getting ready to play our championship game. And when we found out that we didn't have to see the Minnesota Vikings it was like, man, we're about to win another Super Bowl.
00;30;36;08 - 00;30;37;09
CJ
What did you guys play in there?
00;30;37;09 - 00;30;39;14
Big Al
I don't even I think it was I don't know I think.
00;30;39;14 - 00;30;39;23
CJ
It was the.
00;30;39;23 - 00;31;09;16
Big Al
Steelers or the Jets maybe. Or I don't I don't, I don't remember. But it was so it didn't matter. We were going to win the game. We weren't looking at the AFC Championship game. We were 14 and two. We were a great football team. But we but we didn't have to see another great football team. Man, you should have saw the confidence and everybody around the organization like okay man, let's go out there and win this game and then get to the next one and then take care of our business.
00;31;09;19 - 00;31;10;02
Big Al
I mean.
00;31;10;05 - 00;31;18;00
CJ
What you guys did, I was at the I was in Miami at that game, man. And, I mean, that it felt like that game was over five minutes into it.
00;31;18;03 - 00;31;40;20
Big Al
It was it was not, it was not a it was not a contest. Right. Like, we just didn't they didn't pose a threat to us. And so when I start talking about these matchups, you know, like these matchups, they really mean something, you know, like they really absolutely mean something in the playoffs. So, you know, you just you just you just hope for the best matchups.
00;31;40;20 - 00;31;44;25
Big Al
You want the worst team possible when you playing in the playoffs.
00;31;44;28 - 00;31;46;05
CJ
Then you survive in advance.
00;31;46;05 - 00;32;09;02
Big Al
I survive and advance. And then if you get the worst team in the Super Bowl that you possibly could play against, you want that. You want that, man. You want you want to play. You don't want to play against the 15 and one Minnesota Vikings. You know what I'm saying. You want to play against I think the two lost Atlanta Falcons who had you know you know I don't know how many guys on that Atlanta Falcons team went to the Hall of Fame.
00;32;09;03 - 00;32;12;02
CJ
Well, Eugene Robinson went to, the Red light district.
00;32;12;03 - 00;32;15;06
Big Al
Yeah he did, he did. But think about this. Think about this.
00;32;15;08 - 00;32;17;00
CJ
Night was the night before the game.
00;32;17;02 - 00;32;34;22
Big Al
It was. Yeah, it was two nights before I was the night before the game. I tell you the story that I tell you the story about how Eugene Robinson or why Eugene Robinson, ended up, in jail the night before.
00;32;34;25 - 00;32;36;16
CJ
Yeah, he was soliciting prostitutes.
00;32;36;19 - 00;32;40;04
Big Al
Okay, so let me tell you this story. This is a great story.
00;32;40;07 - 00;32;42;05
CJ
So don't tell me, Dan.
00;32;42;05 - 00;32;43;13
Big Al
You hold on.
00;32;43;20 - 00;32;44;25
CJ
You weren't in the.
00;32;44;27 - 00;32;47;01
Big Al
No, no, no, I wasn't, I wasn't, and.
00;32;47;07 - 00;32;48;13
CJ
I'm not going to let you tell that.
00;32;48;13 - 00;33;04;05
Big Al
But Dan Reeves had a rule when he was, the head coach that allowed the players wives to come with them on day one of the Super Bowl week.
00;33;04;08 - 00;33;04;25
CJ
00;33;04;28 - 00;33;24;09
Big Al
Right. So the wives came down with the players on, on day one of the Super Bowl. Mike Shanahan said hey listen you know the wives to come down like 5 or 6 days later you know what I'm saying. Like the players are going to be here and then we'll get the families and 5 or 6 days.
00;33;24;09 - 00;33;26;10
CJ
Later to work in, get everything set, give.
00;33;26;10 - 00;33;34;15
Big Al
Us a chance to run around, play and just do do what the hell we want to do. Just just go in and have a great time and enjoy the festivities of the Super Bowl.
00;33;34;20 - 00;33;36;28
CJ
You think about, practice running around and play well.
00;33;37;00 - 00;33;47;15
Big Al
Not we talking about practice. We're talking about parties. We're talking about everything. Right? So we we didn't have the wives there for the first 4 or 5 days. So what did.
00;33;47;15 - 00;33;48;09
CJ
You guys do?
00;33;48;11 - 00;34;05;26
Big Al
We did whatever the hell we want to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, we we had a curfew that was like 2 a.m. for the first 4 or 5 days. So we went out in Miami. We had a great time. It was, you know, it was it was amazing. Right. And, but the guys from Atlanta Wives came with them on that.
00;34;05;26 - 00;34;06;20
CJ
Trip.
00;34;06;23 - 00;34;08;05
Big Al
On day one.
00;34;08;08 - 00;34;09;15
CJ
So they didn't have time to go.
00;34;09;16 - 00;34;26;04
Big Al
They didn't have time to go out and relax and, and hang out with each other and have fellowship and just roll through and have a great time. The only night, the only night that those players got free was the night before the damn game.
00;34;26;06 - 00;34;29;03
CJ
And that's why Eugene Robinson, when he got his.
00;34;29;05 - 00;34;42;13
Big Al
That's why Eugene Robinson, the night before the biggest game of his. It was the second biggest game because he played in the Super Bowl the year before, when he was with the, with the Packers. So that was his second time losing to the Broncos in the Super Bowl. Right. So in.
00;34;42;13 - 00;34;43;06
CJ
Consecutive years.
00;34;43;07 - 00;34;50;10
Big Al
In consecutive years. And so, so that was the only night out that he had without the wives.
00;34;50;13 - 00;34;56;15
CJ
He could have got that a way out of the way day to day one, day to day three, day four.
00;34;56;17 - 00;35;05;10
Big Al
You know what I'm saying? But you know what I'm saying? Black. Like, it's like real talk. Real talk. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was the only damn day he had to go out there and get it in.
00;35;05;10 - 00;35;07;07
CJ
Dan Reeves wronged him.
00;35;07;08 - 00;35;07;24
Big Al
He did.
00;35;07;24 - 00;35;09;01
CJ
Man, that he did.
00;35;09;01 - 00;35;09;11
Big Al
Man.
00;35;09;15 - 00;35;11;13
CJ
He never put my man in that position.
00;35;11;15 - 00;35;24;16
Big Al
You know? Don't look. That's horrible. It's terrible. Horrible. It's horrible as well. Amen. Amen. But that's a that's a that's a true story. Like they were there with their families. Day one of the Super Bowl week.
00;35;24;20 - 00;35;32;01
CJ
How about how about this man as you go through the story, how about just don't solicit the prostitute?
00;35;32;04 - 00;35;51;13
Big Al
I mean, I don't know if you know that there are prostitutes when you're soliciting them. You have to tell me that it's not part of my makeup, that that never happened with me or my teammates. Maybe they did. I don't know, shit. I mean, I'm just trying to be honest here. No, we went out. We went out. We had a great time.
00;35;51;18 - 00;35;52;27
Big Al
They didn't. We went to bars.
00;35;52;27 - 00;35;58;28
CJ
When y'all went out. Was that did anybody get that part of the adventure out of the way when you guys I don't know.
00;35;58;29 - 00;36;06;01
Big Al
That's what I'm saying. Like you got a you got a whole football squad and people do a bunch of shit.
00;36;06;03 - 00;36;08;13
CJ
So man, you know, just whatever, right? Do your thing.
00;36;08;13 - 00;36;24;11
Big Al
Yeah, yeah. You got money, you got availability, you got time. You got, you know, you're not in the best shape of your life. You got all this money, and you're planning a you're there to win a Super Bowl. So, you know, even if you're average, you hot as hell, right.
00;36;24;11 - 00;36;26;28
CJ
There ain't no no average. No one's average at the super.
00;36;27;03 - 00;36;39;26
Big Al
No no. Not if you're participating in the Super Bowl. You know you're in you're most of the guys in their 20s. You know what I'm saying. With a lot of money and and they're playing for a chance to be world champions. You had a hell.
00;36;39;28 - 00;36;58;24
CJ
Speaking of hot, the city of Denver and aside from For a brother from Detroit to admit this, the city of Denver is the hottest sports town in America right now. Three of the four major sports teams are the best. I think the nuggets are going to win. I'm going to say we'll talk more about this. I think the nuggets are going to win the world championship this year.
00;36;59;00 - 00;37;14;13
CJ
You look at the depth of this team and the fact that they got the best plan of NBA on it. When it's all said and done over the course of a grueling 82 games, this this team is built for longevity. That's a prediction there. You said you predicting the Broncos are going to win the Super Bowl. So that's two.
00;37;14;13 - 00;37;37;25
CJ
And now the Avs the best record I think in the National Hockey Hockey League right now at 13 one. And five. The combined records of those three teams, 32, five and five, this I could I was going to make the prediction, despite the fact that the defending world champion Oklahoma City Thunder are now in first place and they are off to an extremely hot start.
00;37;37;26 - 00;37;39;09
Big Al
They they are they are rock solid.
00;37;39;10 - 00;38;02;24
CJ
I'm telling you, over the course of 82 games, I'm looking at this nuggets team and how they put it together, bringing back some of those vets who are on who are on the team. The last one who's born, you get some, some veteran players along. So we'll talk more in depth about that. But, I'm like, hell, if the Broncos win the Super Bowl, let's just hold off on the parade until the summer after the nuggets win the World championship.
00;38;03;00 - 00;38;04;19
CJ
That one big ass parade downtown.
00;38;04;21 - 00;38;21;23
Big Al
Hey, I like it, I like it. I'm telling you, in the halves once again you know Premiership mettle there. But you know, just just you know, I know I know it's still football season, but I don't know if you've been paying attention to what's happening in San Antonio. The victim wembanyama.
00;38;21;26 - 00;38;22;27
CJ
Well, he's special.
00;38;23;00 - 00;38;41;26
Big Al
That guy at seven foot four, being able to shoot the three, work inside, the defensive presence that he has, he's just unbelievable. I think he is. I think he has got to be the frontrunner for a league MVP right now or getting close to it.
00;38;41;26 - 00;38;43;09
CJ
Yeah, he's he's in the conversation.
00;38;43;09 - 00;39;17;17
Big Al
He's in the conversation. Of course the Joker is going to be part of that conversation is yeah. Suga is going to be part of that conversation. But last week I saw something that was just just amazing. I saw Steph Curry in two games against the San Antonio Spurs, put up massive numbers. I think he had something somewhere in the neighborhood of like 96 in 2 games against the San Antonio Spurs and I you know, in one matchup it was a switch.
00;39;17;19 - 00;39;24;02
Big Al
And Wembanyama was forced to guard Steph Curry and Steph cook the shit out.
00;39;24;04 - 00;39;24;19
CJ
He's shaking.
00;39;24;20 - 00;39;25;21
Big Al
Oh he cooked the shit up.
00;39;25;21 - 00;39;26;13
CJ
Put him in a blender.
00;39;26;13 - 00;39;35;03
Big Al
He put him in the blender and he gave him gave him the move like he was going inside. Step back behind the three point line and shout over the seven foot four.
00;39;35;05 - 00;39;36;13
CJ
I used to. Do you like that little bit?
00;39;36;13 - 00;39;37;28
Big Al
Oh man, you never had a chance.
00;39;37;29 - 00;39;38;20
CJ
No, in real life.
00;39;38;23 - 00;40;05;13
Big Al
But I'm telling you, man, it was it was, you know, if you got YouTube, you got time to go back and watch the game and you got to go see Steph Curry's performances last week against. And in the middle of that, they got their asses blown out by the the Oklahoma City Thunder. But you got to go back and watch how they handled, the San Antonio Spurs and Victor Wembanyama.
00;40;05;13 - 00;40;28;11
Big Al
Man, he was playing lights out basketball. It's just it's just great to see wonderful, basketball with both basketball guys. You know, it's wonderful. See? Wonderful basketball. And you mentioned the Denver Nuggets having a chance to win another championship. It's a grind in the Western Conference. It's right. It's a grind. It's not like you can all save it and get to the playoffs.
00;40;28;11 - 00;40;47;16
Big Al
You first of all you got to get to the you got to get you got to have a good enough record to avoid the play in games and and all of that nonsense that goes on, man, it's just it's a fantastic time to be a basketball fan. I will say that I am happy, that this league in the NBA, is starting to.
00;40;47;18 - 00;40;50;18
Big Al
It's starting to feel like football almost. You got gotta win.
00;40;50;22 - 00;41;06;27
CJ
Well, if you and the Rocky Mountain View in this region of the country, man, let me tell you, it is, a great time to be a sports fan. Yes, I heard there was a baseball team in the region, but I hadn't gotten I hadn't got confirmation on that. But now it's fun to be. Hey, man, I got to tell you a little bit of biz.
00;41;06;27 - 00;41;12;07
CJ
Said I was a little bit sad last week, although I knew it was coming to here. Our guy.
00;41;12;08 - 00;41;12;25
Big Al
00;41;12;27 - 00;41;39;09
CJ
Rick George, athletic director for the University of Colorado, announced that he was stepping down. Yeah. It wasn't a shocker, because he had shared with some I knew earlier in the summer that, that this was going to be his last year that said, thinking about Rick's tenure as a buff and in a I know he's going to do some stuff as a special assistant, I think, to the chancellor, the president.
00;41;39;11 - 00;41;43;06
CJ
But, we go back with Rick, back to, what, 87 man.
00;41;43;08 - 00;42;10;22
Big Al
Rick actually recruited me, when he was in Illinois. So he was, the recruiting coordinator for, Illinois when, after he finished playing ball there. And, we we go all the way back to 1985 86. Yeah. And so when we got here in 87, he was here, and I was like, man, with this recruiting me, he tells a great story about, recruiting, recruiting.
00;42;10;25 - 00;42;25;18
Big Al
Mike Pritchard and John Bowman, both in, in, Las Vegas. Right. And he had already been named the, recruiting coordinator at Colorado. And, he said that it was one of the most awkward visits.
00;42;25;18 - 00;42;27;16
CJ
He was recruiting them to Illinois. Yeah.
00;42;27;18 - 00;42;49;07
Big Al
And he was already got the Colorado job. And, anyway, that was. Yeah. Rick. Rick. Rick. Leaving? The University of Colorado, I think is, in its current capacity is, is it's a it's a bit of a blow, but he's been part of some of the greatest moments the University of Colorado has ever enjoyed. Yeah.
00;42;49;09 - 00;43;14;06
Big Al
And, and his, his, his class act of, of leadership is just been, it's been outstanding, you know, I mean, he he's he's a guy that we both know, trust and love. You know, and it's just, it's just been a credit to have him back after he left the, the PGA to come back here and work as an athletic director.
00;43;14;06 - 00;43;21;16
Big Al
There's been some ups and downs. This year is a down year. But last year, I think he won like, athletic director of the.
00;43;21;18 - 00;43;22;29
CJ
Year at Minnesota or something.
00;43;23;01 - 00;43;38;29
Big Al
Yeah, some some some kind of title like that. But it's just, it's just been, great to have him around, you know, he's. I can say it on my home boy. And the fact that he can still be around is great. You know, I think about guys who have had this kind of impact on universities and.
00;43;39;04 - 00;43;44;18
Big Al
And maybe the first name that always pops up to me is, Barry Switzer. You know.
00;43;44;19 - 00;43;51;22
CJ
And Barry, you know, I don't know if you want to. Too many people want to be, you know, Barry was Barry had a huge impact at Oklahoma.
00;43;51;22 - 00;44;02;25
Big Al
Yeah, but I'm just saying, guys that had a huge impact and stayed around the schools, you know what I'm saying? Like, there are several legendary coaches. I mean, you think about Tom Osborne.
00;44;02;25 - 00;44;03;06
CJ
Yeah.
00;44;03;07 - 00;44;16;06
Big Al
Yeah. I don't know if, if Tom. What what effect does he still hang around Nebraska and still have that? But Barry Alvarez is another name like Wisconsin. He's, athletic director, I think. I don't know if he stepped in.
00;44;16;06 - 00;44;18;16
CJ
May have stepped down, but he. Yeah, he was always.
00;44;18;19 - 00;44;27;09
Big Al
Always around. The Wisconsin, football program, Wisconsin athletics. So, you know, have these legendary figures around. I think it's always good.
00;44;27;12 - 00;44;53;07
CJ
Rick. Rick was the right guy at the right time for Colorado. And I think one thing, given his first tenure back when we played, you know, Colorado was a unique job, right? It's not like a lot of folks have. I think, a bit of a distorted sort of view of what Ku athletics is, particularly C football. You got to kind of understand it.
00;44;53;07 - 00;45;20;26
CJ
The DNA of the environment, the DNA of the camp is as it relates to big time college athletics, and it's something that has to be navigated. And Rick came in with an understanding of what that challenge was certainly a great opportunity, but a big challenge as well. And so as we project forward now, obviously we had to talk about what might this mean for Coach Prime and in his tenure as the head coach at the University of Colorado.
00;45;20;28 - 00;45;32;16
CJ
But I'm even projecting forward to the next athletic director. I say choose wisely. Obviously not just because of the impact on on, you know, your head coach.
00;45;32;18 - 00;45;34;12
Big Al
But I mean, the head coach of football.
00;45;34;15 - 00;46;18;21
CJ
Head coach of football, but also be have understanding the environment around Boulder, around the state of Colorado as it relates to big time college athletics, in this case, big time college football and what's at stake, what I had hoped was that Rick would stick around until whatever is whatever the next shoe to drop in. Major college football had dropped already, because I think the University of Colorado, given what it what's been taking place over the last three years, notwithstanding a down year this year, for sure was or is solidly in that conversation that landing at the big boys table.
00;46;18;21 - 00;46;37;13
CJ
When the dust settles, I think there'll be two big super conferences, perhaps 40 to 48 teams, maybe 64, whatever it was. Colorado has to be a part of that. And I was hoping, Rick, my wish was that he would stick around to that came to pass. I think we probably have a year, a year or two away from that.
00;46;37;16 - 00;47;09;13
CJ
And whoever our next athletic director is, is going to have to shepherd us to that and through that process, because it's not, you know, Colorado is not one of those university brands, if you will, that has an automatic bid to it and not Michigan or Alabama or Texas in that regard. Ohio State. So this is a tenuous time to some degree, but I do have to just tip my cap to my man for doing an outstanding job over two different ten years, right, as a Colorado buffalo.
00;47;09;13 - 00;47;19;29
Big Al
Yeah. And I mean, maybe, his greatest gift to the University of Colorado is ushering us into the big 12 and was not a given situation, being that we left.
00;47;19;29 - 00;47;21;11
CJ
At great point.
00;47;21;14 - 00;47;51;06
Big Al
And we were in a failing Pac 12 organization that, for the most part, it was disassembled as soon as USC said that they were leaving. And, you know, everybody was looking for a home. I mean, we he was able to shepherd us, like you said, over to the big 12. And as this next iteration of college football takes shape, I think that he'll be around the university to kind of, you know, have his hand involved in that.
00;47;51;06 - 00;47;52;12
Big Al
So I think so.
00;47;52;13 - 00;48;01;09
CJ
Do you think this has any impact on what Dan decides to do moving forward?
00;48;01;12 - 00;48;23;15
Big Al
I would say no because I think Rick's still around and he'll you know, I think Dion, Coach Prime will have the ability to pick the phone up and make a real phone call to Rick. If there was an issue. Yeah, yeah. The next the next athletic directors job is not to come in here and kick out Coach Prime.
00;48;23;17 - 00;48;31;12
Big Al
It's the eight hell no. Eight him to make sure that, you know, he has the player and the resources that he needs to win.
00;48;31;14 - 00;48;54;08
CJ
No doubt about it. In fact, we hadn't heard a lot from either Rick or Coach Prime on this. Although, Coach Prime did post, a note, after the after the announcement that Rick would be stepping aside, from Deion Sanders here. Love you man. And I appreciate the tremendous opportunity you've given us. We owe you.
00;48;54;10 - 00;49;24;23
CJ
We're going to do we're going to do this together. Thank you for always looking out, being real, being tough, and being Rick George. I agree with that. I love you, man. And I appreciate you saying you spent you staying connected to the program. We need you. That last statement there, I think the big one we need you and, you know, indication that, which is what I've always said, I think, Deion Sanders like Colorado, he loves the environment.
00;49;24;25 - 00;49;28;25
CJ
And I think he this is a long time, a long term play for him.
00;49;28;27 - 00;50;01;01
Big Al
Yeah. Rick made him one of the highest paid college football coaches in America. After one solid season and I don't know if there's another program out there that's got to give him an opportunity to make another, you know, over $10 million a year. I'm quite sure there may be. But what it did is solidify Deion Sanders as, focal point here in Boulder, Colorado, which is to me, in my opinion, in my opinion, that's a good deal.
00;50;01;07 - 00;50;31;27
Big Al
Like we don't have to go out there and search for another head coach no time soon, because this guy really has its, fingerprints all over the program. It's got to get better and it will get better. But but I like I like where it's heading right now. And I think that, every year that Deion Sanders is in the head coach position, he's going to get better because, let's let's face it, he didn't have much experience as a head coach coming in here.
00;50;32;00 - 00;50;35;13
Big Al
But I think his influence over the program is is heavy, you know.
00;50;35;13 - 00;50;55;06
CJ
No no doubt about it. That's well said. And, by the way, will be up in Boulder, again getting it in at the Bo to Marriott ahead of this weekend's season finale at home against Arizona State. It's a 6:00 kickoff, so the festivities will get started at the Boulder Marriott with Big Al and C.J. and my man fedora.
00;50;55;08 - 00;51;11;09
CJ
And we'll have a special guest. Now, only the only thing I'll tell you, I'm not going to give up. Who, the special guest, will be. But the Broncos have a bye this week. That's all I'm going to say. The Broncos have a bye this week. So make sure you come out hang out at the Boulder Marriott with us again.
00;51;11;09 - 00;51;31;09
CJ
We'll have music giveaways, food and sometimes the big fella just watch the game from the hotel. Don't even do this. Don't even bother to go to the stadium as having so much fun. So perhaps they'll be a bit of a watch party there as well, man. Hey, man, before we get off this and I will, we'll talk more about predictions in the game against Arizona State.
00;51;31;16 - 00;51;45;19
CJ
I know it's Senior Day. It's going to be a very emotional day for you. I'm gonna bring some Kleenex to make sure you can, you know, control. You know, your tears flow because you get real. I don't want to say bitchy. I'm not I'm not going to say.
00;51;45;19 - 00;51;55;14
Big Al
It's a big deal for me, because this is the last opportunity that these guys will have to run behind Ralphie. And, it's a it's, one of those kind of deals.
00;51;55;14 - 00;52;05;17
CJ
Maybe you should. You think they'll let you? I mean, if you want to stay in the long run out behind Ralphie with the team. No, we should. Rick. I mean, we just gave Rick all that love. He can make this happen. Why not black?
00;52;05;17 - 00;52;07;03
Big Al
No. I want no part of that. Okay.
00;52;07;08 - 00;52;18;24
CJ
All right. Keeping it moving. Then we'll talk more about this match up. During the Big Al and C.J. show this Saturday. Hey, man, I do want to give out, the Ace Clown of the week award.
00;52;18;24 - 00;52;20;01
Big Al
Oh, my goodness.
00;52;20;06 - 00;52;24;03
CJ
Did you see what took place? Oh, man. In College Station.
00;52;24;06 - 00;52;42;26
Big Al
South Carolina and Texas A&M. Yes. Playing in what has become an epic, epic comeback story for Texas A&M. Great game, a great football game. But, what happened there with the state trooper? C.J. it.
00;52;42;26 - 00;52;43;27
CJ
Was right here on the.
00;52;43;27 - 00;52;54;00
Big Al
Screen. Right right there. Take a look at this. These guys are walking out. The police officer, I said, state trooper, you know, both both of the guys.
00;52;54;03 - 00;52;55;20
CJ
What was that? Man? Well, I, I.
00;52;55;20 - 00;53;16;26
Big Al
Don't and I think that made the score at that point, like 27 to 3 or something like that. There was it was South Carolina was giving them the business. And this guy, I think was upset. The receiver there called a long touchdown, like a 80 yard touchdown, ran up through the tunnel and the guys came down and he looked like he just wanted to start a fight.
00;53;16;28 - 00;53;31;28
Big Al
And it was just a bad moment. It was a bad moment for Texas A&M because the guy was working security detail for Texas A&M. And those kids didn't have they didn't have a reason to be assaulted like that.
00;53;31;29 - 00;53;55;21
CJ
Listen, I know this is, at first of all, I've never seen anything like that. I've never seen anything like that during a a sporting event, a particularly a football game of which I've participated and watched a lot of never seen anything like it. And, and on the one hand, you might say, well, it was a unfortunate incident. What's the big was.
00;53;55;22 - 00;53;56;20
Big Al
Bullshit is what it.
00;53;56;20 - 00;54;30;11
CJ
Was. It was, it was that and but here's the problem. Here's I think what's challenge me challenging me more. I think more and more. It's indicative of where we are as a society. And in my mind I'm saying, yeah, I can, I can, I can look at this as just a isolated, singular incident, but hostility and anxiety, and, you know, it just seems like it's just spilling over into areas of our society that we we've never seen it happen before.
00;54;30;14 - 00;54;42;17
Big Al
You know what I think happened? What I think happened, and this is just my opinion. I do want to say it. Okay. I think it's just my opinion. I think what happened there is that that guy was a Texas A&M fan.
00;54;42;20 - 00;54;43;18
CJ
Of course, he was a.
00;54;43;18 - 00;55;11;03
Big Al
Texas A&M fan. Texas A&M was getting their ass kicked by South Carolina, and he took it in his own hands to disrupt a great moment for South Carolina. And it was, it was a punk move, right? It was a punk move. But the way that Texas A&M, I gotta give them credit, the way that Texas A&M handled it was absolutely superb.
00;55;11;03 - 00;55;31;17
Big Al
C.J. During the game, it was the administration from Texas A&M. Remove the police officer. Just say the state trooper. They removed him from his security detail during the game.
00;55;31;19 - 00;56;05;26
Big Al
They removed him from the security detail of the game. And then, the department in which he worked for also reprimand, reprimanded him for his actions. And on top of that, Texas A&M in general apologized. It feels Lee it's effusively for, his actions. It was handled professionally during the game. This they didn't have to wait till after the game to admonish that kind of, behavior.
00;56;05;26 - 00;56;07;26
CJ
They did it in the game.
00;56;07;28 - 00;56;37;08
Big Al
They removed him during the game. The, the, his his his corresponding, the authorities that he worked for also admonished his behavior and put him on, thank God thing on suspension or, investigation, consequentially, because of his actions. And I'm just, oh my goodness. You know, look at the look at the fucking reaction. Like, like this is like, you know, like this is this is this is this is the way it's supposed to work.
00;56;37;13 - 00;56;55;19
Big Al
Yeah. Not his reaction is not what we would anticipate for our good men and women in law enforcement to be. But the actions of the university and of his, his, commanding officers was first class.
00;56;55;19 - 00;56;56;05
CJ
Yeah.
00;56;56;08 - 00;57;11;26
Big Al
Yeah, but but I don't know his name. I don't know his name. I don't, I don't, I don't I don't mean to, cause the guy to lose his job or anything, it was just a that was one. I guarantee you that's going to be one of his worst moments of his life.
00;57;11;26 - 00;57;12;23
CJ
Well, I.
00;57;12;25 - 00;57;13;15
Big Al
I hope it is.
00;57;13;15 - 00;57;31;22
CJ
Well, yeah. You assume and so, I don't know, but it was a big time punk move. And kudos to the folks down, at Texas A&M for handling it expeditiously. As you might say. Hey, look, man, I'm gonna give you anything before we get out of here, but two, one, two. Because you'll be, you know, you have to show you stuff.
00;57;31;22 - 00;57;38;15
CJ
Blowing me up, talking about. Hey, man, I can't believe you didn't say boo. You know what? What? You got me? Oh.
00;57;38;17 - 00;58;11;13
Big Al
You know, earlier we started this whole conversation about who has, You know, if we were going to do a redraft. We did this three weeks ago, and here we are, three weeks later. If we did the redraft of the 2024 NFL football draft, how many quarterbacks there were? Six taken in the first round. How would you rank the quarterbacks now after 11 games and in year two?
00;58;11;16 - 00;58;12;14
Big Al
Who would be number one?
00;58;12;14 - 00;58;15;18
CJ
Are you suggesting my list might be a little different than it was 3 or 4?
00;58;15;21 - 00;58;20;26
Big Al
I just want to make sure. I just want to reiterate what your position is on these quarterbacks.
00;58;20;29 - 00;58;23;21
CJ
I think I think Jayden Daniels would still be number one.
00;58;23;21 - 00;58;27;02
Big Al
Okay. Jayden Daniels, number one I agree.
00;58;27;05 - 00;58;31;07
CJ
Drake Maye did I think I think I had Drake Maye number two.
00;58;31;14 - 00;58;34;12
Big Al
Okay okay I agree.
00;58;34;14 - 00;58;45;26
CJ
Caleb Williams three I agree. Well here's where it may flip for me. I may be interesting. This is going.
00;58;45;26 - 00;58;46;13
Big Al
To be interesting.
00;58;46;13 - 00;58;48;05
CJ
I may have had Penix for.
00;58;48;05 - 00;58;49;06
Big Al
Yeah, I think you may have.
00;58;49;06 - 00;58;52;13
CJ
I would flip that. I would put both four and five.
00;58;52;18 - 00;58;53;12
Big Al
Okay.
00;58;53;14 - 00;59;09;01
CJ
And I'll tell you who would not be. I thought it was a ridiculous draft and I think I got me years right. But, Minnesota's pick JJ McCarthy. He was never a first round draft pick. He was never that man. I watched him play a lot of football.
00;59;09;01 - 00;59;13;22
Big Al
And you said that. You said that to me privately. You say, hey, the guy only throws 12 passes a game.
00;59;13;22 - 00;59;36;20
CJ
And and he is he's never been that guy who carry a team who had big moments because defenses were always tailor made for that Michigan offense because of what they did running the football. But that's how I would redraft that. I think, I, I think the, the, the point of the question is to identify sort of what Bo Nix is doing.
00;59;36;27 - 00;59;58;03
CJ
I think Bo Nix is he's better than I thought he would be. Yeah. As I mentioned before, I think he's probably closer to his ceiling than any of them, than any of those guys. He's a much older guy that all those guys. But you got to give him credit, man. And this is not the easiest environment.
00;59;58;07 - 01;00;22;13
CJ
Environment for him to play with. I know that there's it's been reported to some degree that there's tensions between he and his offensive coordinator slash head coach. But that said, I think with his maturity and his ability, he's handled it well. And he happens to be in benefit. And I know when if I were a quarterback, I would want to benefit from the same thing when the arguably the best defense in the league.
01;00;22;18 - 01;00;47;27
Big Al
Yeah, I tell you, this is, this, brings to light also to me, it just brings to light how coaching matters in the NFL. You know what I'm saying? It matters good and bad for a team like the Washington Commanders having, Dan Quinn still having Jayden Daniels in a game where they had no chance to win, losing him for the season.
01;00;47;29 - 01;00;48;29
CJ
Is he done for the season?
01;00;49;04 - 01;01;14;26
Big Al
Yeah. Yes, he's done for the season. Okay. So so Dan Quinn using him with Kliff Kingsbury last year. Got him to the NFC Championship game. It almost feels like a little bit like our day our our our what is the name RG three. Yeah. So it almost feels like a little bit like RG three because of the injuries and how it happened and his explosive start I hope it's not.
01;01;14;28 - 01;01;19;19
Big Al
And then Drake may the outstanding job that.
01;01;19;21 - 01;01;20;14
CJ
He.
01;01;20;17 - 01;01;24;05
Big Al
Vrabel has done and Josh McDaniels.
01;01;24;05 - 01;01;24;17
CJ
Yeah.
01;01;24;23 - 01;01;31;28
Big Al
This guy is yeah I mean this guy is a great offensive coordinator not a great head coach. Great offensive coordinator.
01;01;31;28 - 01;01;43;28
CJ
Dialing it up man. That team I watched him this weekend. I watch the I typically don't watch a whole game. I come in and up. But that team, that quarterback is damn good. Yes, yes. And I got to tell you Caleb Williams.
01;01;43;28 - 01;01;45;22
Big Al
Yes. He's got something to oh.
01;01;45;22 - 01;01;46;00
CJ
My.
01;01;46;01 - 01;02;07;04
Big Al
Goodness. Got something to him. He's got something to him. And Bo Nix I do believe that the young man like you said, he may be closer to a ceiling because of his age, but he is playing lights out football in, in this offense. I know it's not, gaudy numbers that are out there, but he's he's doing the one thing that is really appreciated by all.
01;02;07;04 - 01;02;08;11
Big Al
And that's winning football game.
01;02;08;12 - 01;02;09;12
CJ
That's right.
01;02;09;14 - 01;02;19;01
Big Al
That panics, panics, injury and inconsistency, is disappointing. The guy was a fantastic quarterback at the University of Washington and has.
01;02;19;01 - 01;02;20;11
CJ
Flashed in the way he sounds.
01;02;20;11 - 01;02;37;29
Big Al
Yes. And JJ McCarthy is he's he's he's a he we call it these guys Jags just a guy. Yeah he's a Jag just a guy. But it also leads me to think maybe another guy that's a Jag is Arch Manning.
01;02;38;02 - 01;02;38;29
CJ
01;02;39;02 - 01;02;41;25
Big Al
Wow. That's the last thing I want to leave you with arch.
01;02;41;25 - 01;02;42;25
CJ
Manning a Jag.
01;02;43;00 - 01;02;52;01
Big Al
Just a guy. Now you go back and you look at this guy playing high school football against a bunch of JV players in Louisiana. There's Arch.
01;02;52;01 - 01;02;54;11
CJ
Manning. Are you going to belittle the guy here?
01;02;54;14 - 01;03;08;21
Big Al
I mean, the way that they got manhandled by Georgia last week. Yeah, I mean, and he's had inconsistencies basically since the start of this year after this Heisman hype, is Artz Manning just a guy?
01;03;08;22 - 01;03;35;10
CJ
No. He's better than just the guy. I would say he's been arch Manning's problem or challenge is he's a manning. And to your point about all the Heisman hype before even starting a football game in college, that wasn't of his doing. But there is a standard that has been set for this guy that to some degree is almost impossible to meet, and I don't put that on him.
01;03;35;12 - 01;03;38;09
CJ
If his name was Arch Williams.
01;03;38;09 - 01;03;39;21
Big Al
Would he be starting that Texas.
01;03;39;21 - 01;03;41;06
CJ
Right now? Yes, he'd probably be.
01;03;41;07 - 01;03;41;18
Big Al
You'd think.
01;03;41;18 - 01;03;53;09
CJ
So. Probably be starting at Texas and we would be evaluating his progress as a first year starter differently. We'd be saying, hey man, that kid got some stuff. And and if.
01;03;53;12 - 01;03;53;21
Big Al
He had.
01;03;53;21 - 01;04;18;06
CJ
Some stuff, yeah, he had some stuff. He's a talented guy. He has arm talent. He's athletic. He he's that's my point. Like we we keep evaluating him against what media expectations are and what the Manning legacy is. But if you just take him and say and watch him play quarterback, he is a physically gifted dude. He has to get more accurate.
01;04;18;06 - 01;04;35;23
CJ
The things that young quarterbacks do that he's doing, but he don't get the benefit of being a young quarterback because the expectation is so high. And I think that's unfair to him. That's it. The jury's still out. There's no guarantee that he's going to be great, but I think he has a shot at it.
01;04;35;26 - 01;04;43;27
Big Al
Yeah. And closing remarks for me. Last thing, the Oklahoma Alabama game last weekend was one of the most thrilling.
01;04;43;27 - 01;04;44;12
CJ
Great game.
01;04;44;12 - 01;05;10;07
Big Al
College football games I've seen. And Oklahoma going into Alabama and beating. Yeah I mean it's just such a weird, you know, like since then, since we have conference realignment to see a school like Oklahoma with all this history and pageantry that goes with that university playing at a place like Alabama, with all of that history and pageantry that goes with that university.
01;05;10;09 - 01;05;11;15
Big Al
What a scene.
01;05;11;15 - 01;05;12;00
CJ
Unbelievable.
01;05;12;00 - 01;05;13;01
Big Al
What a scene, man.
01;05;13;01 - 01;05;13;10
CJ
It was.
01;05;13;10 - 01;05;18;23
Big Al
Crazy. College football right now, to me is the king. Right now college football is the king.
01;05;18;23 - 01;05;29;23
CJ
Listen, I've never I can't recall a season where both in the NFL and in college football, I think you legitimately have like an NFL. I think they're probably a teams that could win the Super Bowl.
01;05;29;23 - 01;05;30;11
Big Al
Yeah, yeah.
01;05;30;12 - 01;05;50;11
CJ
I can't think of the last time where there were eight teams who could possibly win a Super Bowl. And in, in, in college football, I think the same. I think they're probably eight teams that could win a national championship. And so it's going to be thrilling all the way to the end. This is one of the great college and pro football seasons for fans that I can recall in a long time, I agree.
01;05;50;12 - 01;05;55;12
CJ
Hey man. So before we get out of here, I gotta give a shout out you guys made noticed I'm wearing my.
01;05;55;14 - 01;05;56;14
Big Al
I'll make a sacrifice.
01;05;56;17 - 01;06;26;12
CJ
To the dad. Today we celebrate 114 years as a fraternity. It's our Founders day. And, I pledge alongside a number of guys back in 1990. And I tell you what, has been one of the thrills and, great decisions in my life is an incredible organization, historically black fraternity, the D9, as they called nine, organizations that make up, the, fraternities and sororities that make up the D9.
01;06;26;12 - 01;06;36;26
CJ
But I want to give a shout out to all the Q's out there. Happy Founders Day to you. And, I'm looking to see what Monday night, this Monday night holds for the brothers. You want to get down with this man?
01;06;37;00 - 01;06;44;13
Big Al
Oh, man. You know, you've always been you guys. You guys are a little wild, so. Yes.
01;06;44;15 - 01;07;02;26
CJ
Hey, hey, that does it for us, man. Right on for my man, big owl. It's the big owl and CJ's. So we'll see you Saturday up in Boulder at the Boulder Marriott to kick this thing off. When the see you buffs take on an Arizona State. They're not the sun. Yes, they're the sun devil. Yes right on cuz art.