The Broncos extend their incredible run and move to 11–2, putting themselves squarely in the fight for the AFC’s top seed. Big Al and CJ break down Denver’s win over the Raiders, Bo Nix’s continued efficiency, and whether this team has enough offensive firepower to beat the league’s best when it matters most. The guys also look at New England’s surprising surge, how the playoff picture is shaping up, and which AFC quarterbacks are the biggest postseason threats. Plus, on the college side, CU makes a major move at offensive coordinator — and what that means for Shedeur Sanders as he continues to elevate his game. A fast, funny, high-energy episode packed with storytelling, arguments, and big football insight from two guys who’ve lived it.
The Broncos take care of business again and improve to 11–2 after beating the Raiders, keeping pace in the race for the AFC’s top seed. Big Al and CJ dive into Denver’s strengths, including elite red-zone efficiency, a defense that continues to travel, and Bo Nix delivering another poised, turnover-free performance. They debate whether the Broncos have enough offensive versatility to win against the NFL’s true heavyweights and how Sean Payton’s play-calling has evolved as the season’s gone on. The conversation expands to the conference landscape, including New England’s surprising run, Buffalo and Baltimore “leaking oil,” and how the final four weeks could determine everything from playoff positioning to coaching futures across the league. In Boulder, CU installs a new offensive coordinator — a move designed to accelerate Shedeur Sanders’ development and reshape the Buffs’ offensive identity heading into next season. With trademark humor, tension, and storytelling, Big Al and CJ deliver a lively, revealing look at football from both the NFL and college angles.
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CJ
The Broncos continue to impress. 11 and two tie for the best record in the league. And it was a big weekend for the C U bus. Despite the fact that they didn't have a game. We'll talk about it coming up.
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CJ
All right, big fella. Let's get right to it, man, because I don't really want to waste a lot of time with you. You know, going back and forth, I'm not going to fight you is the holiday season. We're going to have a good holiday season.
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Big Al
Oh, man. It is the holiday season. There's no reason to have this tension that you seem to exhibit.
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CJ
No, no, no, I just wanted to set the record. We're not going to do that today, man. Look at me. I'm smiling, I feel good.
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Big Al
We're good. Good.
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CJ
You know, I feel like I'm.
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Big Al
Happy that you're feeling good.
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CJ
Right? Oh, man. Right on. So, two teams, atop the NFL right now with 11 and two records. The Denver Broncos taking care of business yesterday against the, the horrible, Las Vegas Raiders, 2417. The game itself was man. Nah. You know yeah. The Broncos did exactly what they had to do.
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Big Al
And that's what good teams, good teams win games that they're supposed to win.
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CJ
That's that's just,
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Big Al
That's just, that's just, characteristic of a good team. You know, it doesn't have to be pretty at the end of the year. You don't know how you want. Know how.
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CJ
Many. Have you ever been on the team that, that's that won ten in a row?
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Big Al
Yes, I think so.
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CJ
No, no, I didn't say lose two. I know when.
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Big Al
You and I mean, in college, we won ten in a row. We won 11.
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CJ
We did.
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Big Al
We won 11 in a row in college and,
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CJ
Undefeated.
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Big Al
You own that team, by the way.
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CJ
89.
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Big Al
And then we won the first 12 or 13 games in our Super Bowl 33, where we lost to the Giants, and we had an undefeated season going.
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CJ
Through through 12 or 13. We think it was.
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Big Al
Like.
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CJ
1313 and a.
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Big Al
12 and one. Then we lost two games and then the 13, I think 12 or 13, I can't remember, but it was. Yeah, I've been on some good team. That's.
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CJ
Yeah. No doubt about that. The Broncos now haven't won ten in a row. With four games left, in a position right now. Sort of control their own destiny. Yeah. You went off for you in, with a 15 and. Ahmed. Yes. Yeah, 15 and two record and, you know, obviously a great position then to win the AFC and get home field advantage throughout.
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CJ
But there's a team up in New England. Talk about how improbable this year is man that we're talking about the Broncos and the Patriots. Both teams I think when the season started the sort of the most optimistic projection was that next year this is what these were sort of building block years for both those franchises. And next year would be the year, not the case.
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CJ
They atop all of it right now and quite frankly, looked like the two best teams, I think, in the National Football League.
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Big Al
And to me, it it really boils down to excellence in the coaching department. Really. It really does show itself. I think Mike Vrabel, Vrabel is is a fantastic head football coach and he is really gotten his team ready to play. I've I've been watching this guy and paying attention to him in his, his talks with his teams.
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Big Al
And it's been impressive. And then you throw, the job that he does as a defensive minded coach with the offensive excellence. And I do mean this offensive excellence from Josh McDaniels and, talented Drake Maye who really understands and gets it. I think that team is well coached. And and I think they are they're being the biggest dividends with the last play schedule.
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Big Al
That's the team that's playing with the last play schedule that's showing up big. The Denver Broncos on the other hand, is playing without a last, play schedule. But they have excellent coaching, excellent with the, with the red zone efficiency. Sean Payton and the defensive prowess, Vance Joseph, the special team showed up big yesterday with a punt return.
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Big Al
That was for return for a touchdown, from your all pro, returner. Then you looking at something that's totally different, though. I think you're looking at offensive excellence in spurts. Defensive excellence as your stable. And really a spark from your special teams. And I think that that is, that is that is probably the best combination that we have in the NFL right now.
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CJ
You know, take note of how you describe the Broncos offense. There's always the caveat in your description of this offense. And it's always it's red zone efficiency.
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Big Al
Red zone efficiency.
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CJ
Let me ask you this. Do you think because if there's any question I think about this Broncos team as whether or not they can be good enough against the best teams in the league offensively to win or to get to, to get to the Super Bowl, to win the AFC and to get to the Super Bowl. You make the caveat again.
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CJ
You make the distinction of not just a damn good offense, but a good offense in the red zone. Is that enough? Is that going to be enough to kill.
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Big Al
Most of the time? Most of the time, if you are a great offensive club, in the red zone, and you are a great defensive club in the red zone, that usually equals wins and losses. And right now the Denver Broncos offensively Sean Payton is dialing it up. And it's pretty. And it's starting to look, better week in week in and week out.
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Big Al
A couple hiccups yesterday with play calls. But in general the play calls are coming in quicker. You're starting to see more of a concerted effort from, Sean Payton to get those calls in. And I think it's starting to pay dividends. Once again, I think defensively, you know, you are who you are. You are your team that brings pressure.
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Big Al
And, you depend on your secondary to play big. If they don't play big, you got to give up big shots. And, the game will be interesting. But in the end, your front seven is going to make a play for you.
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CJ
I see, a couple of things. One, Bo Nix, I thought had a clean game again yesterday. Very efficient. No touchdown passes, no interceptions. I think he was 31 or 38 or something like that. Again, a very efficient game for Bo Nix. It is the type of game. And this is this is something that like when you guys, particularly defensive guys start making these analysis of quarterbacks.
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Big Al
And you do not make it analysis about the quarterback.
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CJ
I didn't I'm just saying in general, why are you take everything I'm saying.
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Big Al
You just did. You just did.
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CJ
It. I said you guys I didn't say you.
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Big Al
I'm just saying I mean, you did it. And I know you were thinking about, you know, throwing me into the equation, but I didn't say shit about the quarterback. And you brought me into it.
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CJ
I didn't say al said anything. I was just about to get. I make my point. Go ahead. Goodness. Great, I still do. We said we weren't going to do this. I'm just.
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Big Al
Saying. I mean, you said you defensive guys. So I'm the only one that's sitting here. So and I played on the defensive side. So what are the defensive guys are you talking about.
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CJ
I didn't say you the defensive guy. I said you say you defensive guys. So people with your kind of profile. How's that. Not necessarily you. Although you know.
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Big Al
Who else is in here that has the same profiles. I don't see Mr. Snuffleupagus in this month.
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CJ
April. Here's my point. That is, he's beginning to I'm beginning to hear people say as if it's a pejorative, that Bo Nix is a game manager. And I'm like, oh.
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Big Al
No, I never said that.
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CJ
Well, wait a minute.
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Big Al
Oh, no, I never said that. No, no, I, I have never, never once said that Bo Nix is a game manager. I didn't say anything less than the guy is growing and he needs a couple of years. I would never call him a guy. I never called him a game manager because I think that's, that that that says that the guy doesn't have the requisite talent to win games by himself.
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Big Al
And I would never say that about this guy.
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CJ
Well, let me just say you're making my point. You what? You just said exactly makes my point. Because to be labeled a game, a great game manager is exactly what every player or every team in the national Football League want from their quarterback. The best quarterbacks in the history of the game were the best managers of the game.
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Big Al
Well, you got me.
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CJ
And, and again, you and your ilk, people who, you know, who pontificate about the quarterback position, you know, just always a game. Give me a great game manager. And you got a great quarterback.
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Big Al
I didn't call you.
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CJ
When a man I am. I'm calling me game. Okay?
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Big Al
You can. And I don't say that. I'm the guy that's in it. Why don't you say that? Guys of your ilk call him a great game?
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CJ
Well, here's here's what I'm saying.
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Big Al
I'm telling you that I think the guy is a playmaking Jesse. Well, that's what we call, by the way. And by the way, when I was playing ball, if you thought a player that was a.
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CJ
Long time.
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Big Al
Ago, that was a long, long time ago. If you thought a player could make a play, you call him a playmaking Jesse. That means that, you know, look out. You know, this dude can make a play. And I think Bo Nix is in that category.
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CJ
I don't know what what is played is kind of stupid to me. What does that mean? Who's Jesse?
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Big Al
Jesse James dog. I don't shoot a dog.
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CJ
What do you mean? It's okay, it's Jesse James.
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Big Al
But I'm just telling you, like playmaking, Jesse is the best thing they can call you. It's like the Senate's to play with making motherfucking like, that's that's, That's not that's not.
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CJ
It's not the same.
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Big Al
It's the same that that is exactly what.
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CJ
Look, here's.
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Big Al
The play making Jesse me make it, motherfucker.
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CJ
I don't want to get too far off the point. The point is, give me a great game manager. And I think Bo Nix. See, you guys define that as someone as you just did. That's not capable of winning football games. It takes a great 11 and two manager to win football games.
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Big Al
Did you hear how I said that? We are 11 and two. That's right. Meaning the Denver Broncos the team that I roll with, team that I love as an NFL franchise is 11 and two. Well why why would I say anything disparaging about what's happening with our young quarterback?
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CJ
Why would you?
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Big Al
There's nothing I would never. And I think that our our play caller gets bored in the middle of the field. That's why I highlight he's a great play caller in the red zone okay.
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CJ
So let's project forward. Let's just look.
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Big Al
For we can do that.
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CJ
Four games left.
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Big Al
Four tough.
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CJ
Ones. You have the New England Patriots as I mentioned sitting there at 11 and two right alongside the door.
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Big Al
Talk with us.
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CJ
Each have four games I've been by the way I will say this that Jacksonville at nine and four they're not out of it. No. The Broncos have a head to head with Jacksonville coming up in a couple of weeks. They're not out of it and they're playing good football. Buffalo. They're nine and four I think as well.
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CJ
But I'm not something about Buffalo that feels feast or famine to me. It feels like Josh Allen has to be a superhero in order for them to win football games. And I'm not sure how sustainable that is. When we talk about when we're talking about, you know, challenging for the, the best record in the league.
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CJ
But I'm looking at these four games that I left and I'm looking at both New England and the Broncos. I think there is an advantage. Broncos have the tougher schedule and as a result, here's my prediction of make a prediction at this point. So with four games left Imma go ahead.
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Big Al
Nostradamus.
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CJ
You don't want.
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Big Al
You have the total lay up.
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CJ
Even though I thought we said we call it the truce man. We said we were going to be this.
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Big Al
Is the word choose looks like with me but go ahead.
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CJ
Backstab bruh.
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Big Al
I agree backstab.
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CJ
You are a backstab.
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Big Al
I'm just saying. Here's the deal. You want to make a prediction. Probably not going to be true.
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CJ
Here's my.
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Big Al
Prediction. You have a lot of hair in your ear now.
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CJ
I don't have a lot of hair in my ear, man. You got a lot of hair in your ear.
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Big Al
There's some here. My ear. I'm thinking I learned that now this will make me go to the barbershop, because there's no way I'm going to put a clipper in my ear, try to get this damn hair out of my ear.
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CJ
How do you know it may be earwax, bro.
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Big Al
It's not earwax.
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CJ
And I don't know because.
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Big Al
I can pick it in.
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CJ
But. Well, we'll say this to man.
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Big Al
But I mean.
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CJ
Those kitchen cuts. I've been telling you this for years. You got to stop that shit, bro.
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Big Al
You got to stop with the dying of the black hair.
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CJ
I do not dye my hair.
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Big Al
Yeah. You do. I mean.
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CJ
By the way, this dude, I'll tell you, this dude, call me. This dude called me this week and was like, C.J., where do you get your dye product from? Like, what are you talking about, man? Come on, man, like, what do you you know, the dye product? Yeah I don't I'm down man.
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Big Al
Man. I'm down for it, man. I'm just saying, like, I mean.
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CJ
I do not dye my hair. See, it'd.
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Big Al
Be different if it'd be different if I didn't know you since 1987. Which means I've known you.
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CJ
Have you ever known.
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Big Al
Me to your entire family?
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CJ
You have the.
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Big Al
Have you ever known that? Known your mom?
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CJ
Yes.
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Big Al
And your dad?
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CJ
Yes.
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Big Al
And they both had a head full of gray hair.
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CJ
True.
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Big Al
So. And. Yeah, I know your brothers. That's. I know your sisters. Yes. And they got, hair full of gray hair. How do you have the only guy that has black hair? Amen. I mean, you and Gary Kubiak, the only two guys I know at this age with jet black hair. So, coach.
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CJ
Coombes, he he.
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Big Al
You and Gary Kubiak are the only two guys I know with jet black hair.
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CJ
But let me I'm a I'm gonna look into the camera and I'm gonna tell all the folks out there, I'm telling you, I'm giving you my word on this. I do not color my hair. I've never put dye in my hair. Now I get grandma beard. And so. Hey, man, is that why you. Is that why you cut your own hair, man?
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CJ
Is that what you're trying to.
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Big Al
Because that's the only place that you have gray man on your head. Your beard.
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CJ
That's it.
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Big Al
That's. What about on the arms?
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CJ
No gray hair on the my arms, man. No gray hair on the moms. It's right. Oh, my.
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Big Al
God, on your chest.
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CJ
No, man. I see.
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Big Al
You don't have no gray hair on your chest.
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CJ
No, no, I got some gray hair. Like, to me, I got a few shots. I got a few strands south of the border, but that's it, man, I do not, and I don't color my look. Let me get back to my prediction, man.
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Big Al
Okay. Go ahead. Nostradamus.
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CJ
Two four games left. The Denver Broncos finish this season 13 and four.
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Big Al
I like that actually.
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CJ
The Denver Broncos. And you look at the schedule right now they got green Bay Jacksonville. The good news there. Both those games are at home. Three of the last four games are at home on the road at Kansas City. Home against the the Chargers. To finish it off. The challenge for Denver is all four of those teams are likely to be playing for.
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Big Al
A chance.
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CJ
For something, right. That's significant. So there are no there are no games off. I don't think, as you.
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Big Al
Put this is a new schedule in the NFL introduced when they moved all the.
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CJ
AFC.
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Big Al
Contests to the back of the schedule. The so they move scuse me. They move the conference games to the back of the schedule to make sure that teams at the end of the year weren't resting players. And there was a reason for you to play the last month of the season, because my last month of the season when we were, playing, you know, we had we had some NFC opponents, we had some, non-conference games, and those didn't have an effect on the postseason.
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Big Al
But then this, NFL today, this this really has an effect on the postseason. And whether or not you make it that last month of the schedule could determine whether or not you're in the playoffs or your, your, your seeding, in the playoffs.
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CJ
And it makes it exciting.
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Big Al
It makes it it makes the league it makes the league so exciting, man. I mean, it's, it's it's, it's coming down to the nut cutting time. And right now I'm, I'm a real fan of play, meaningful playoff, shall I say meaningful football in the month of December.
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CJ
And that's exactly what we have. And the NFL got it. If that was the purpose and the goal of the NFL, they got 100%. Right? Right.
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Big Al
Because because the NBA, the NBA, the NBA has tried to do what the NFL has done. And that's the capture the heart and imagination of the fan base, for the entirety of the season. But with the NBA, what they've introduced, almost.
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Big Al
Gimmicky type.
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CJ
Of.
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Big Al
You know, in-season championships.
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CJ
With the stupid colored floors and, yeah.
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Big Al
Yeah. I mean, I mean, because it's just not good enough, right? What the NFL did is say, let's change our schedule to reflect that these are the most important games. And by itself, it's represented, huge, huge, increase in viewership and excitement at the end of the year. I mean, yeah, this is this is exactly what you want when you, when you when you're a TV executive and you're trying to, you know, figure out what game you want to highlight because it feels like right now.
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Big Al
And with the Indianapolis Colts and how it's all figured out there and Daniel Jones tearing his Achilles up for the Indianapolis Colts, the AFC now.
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CJ
The.
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Big Al
AFC now represents so much hope and promise for so many teams that it's now becoming, it's becoming a must watch TV now on a week going forward. It's must watch TV on a weekly basis.
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CJ
And I think that's true for both conferences.
00;18;15;26 - 00;18;17;07
Big Al
I mean, not in the NBA.
00;18;17;09 - 00;18;18;13
CJ
Well, that's a whole, you know.
00;18;18;18 - 00;18;20;04
Big Al
Not not in the NHL.
00;18;20;04 - 00;18;22;03
CJ
When you play 82 games, it's.
00;18;22;05 - 00;18;23;15
Big Al
Not in Major League Baseball.
00;18;23;16 - 00;18;50;03
CJ
You play 962 games. It's hard to keep that level of interest and intensity over the course. The, the the National Football League just have a they have a natural advantage because every game is significant. And what the league did to your point is they've made they've they've made the most significant the most interesting games happen right at the tail.
00;18;50;03 - 00;18;52;29
CJ
And it reaches this crescendo before the playoffs starts.
00;18;53;02 - 00;18;56;05
Big Al
And you know that's a bad word.
00;18;56;08 - 00;18;57;07
CJ
You were in the band.
00;18;57;08 - 00;18;57;29
Big Al
I was in the band.
00;18;57;29 - 00;19;00;24
CJ
You you were you were in the band and on the football teams.
00;19;00;25 - 00;19;05;12
Big Al
High school. I was in the marching band. You. I was a marching band. I was in a concert band.
00;19;05;12 - 00;19;23;10
CJ
You were the only, I think, and I, I don't know that this to be true, but I'm. If anyone knows of anyone out there, please do share. I think you were the only high school player of note, right? Being as good as you were and as recognizable as you were, never went into the locker room at halftime.
00;19;23;10 - 00;19;26;13
CJ
You know, in your uniform you played it too.
00;19;26;13 - 00;19;29;07
Big Al
But it's not that's not yes, it is not hot. That is.
00;19;29;07 - 00;19;29;19
CJ
Video.
00;19;29;19 - 00;19;30;19
Big Al
Of it. That's not.
00;19;30;19 - 00;19;32;08
CJ
How you played it to in your.
00;19;32;08 - 00;19;32;29
Big Al
Uniform.
00;19;32;29 - 00;19;34;27
CJ
Saxophone. You liked it.
00;19;35;00 - 00;19;39;27
Big Al
And I played freshman football and I played in the marching band.
00;19;39;29 - 00;19;41;11
CJ
And I was doing.
00;19;41;13 - 00;19;42;23
Big Al
This man why why why why, why.
00;19;42;24 - 00;19;44;01
CJ
Don't I see this?
00;19;44;08 - 00;19;46;29
Big Al
I thought you said truth and justice.
00;19;47;01 - 00;19;51;20
CJ
I said truth, but that doesn't mean not truth. I'm telling the truth.
00;19;51;20 - 00;19;59;29
Big Al
Play freshman football. And then I play in the in the marching band on the varsity game at night.
00;20;00;01 - 00;20;05;28
CJ
Like, did they give you one of them coats to wear the deep, like, put it over your shoulder? He was already the biggest kid in the band.
00;20;06;03 - 00;20;11;08
Big Al
You know, we had those we had those. We had those, band hats, the top hats and.
00;20;11;10 - 00;20;11;18
CJ
You know.
00;20;11;18 - 00;20;11;27
Big Al
Band.
00;20;12;01 - 00;20;14;20
CJ
Did you take the helmet off and but, like, seriously, man.
00;20;14;25 - 00;20;15;17
Big Al
Listen, though, I'm.
00;20;15;17 - 00;20;16;21
CJ
Giving you the gig.
00;20;16;22 - 00;20;23;02
Big Al
The game was over. Like my, my freshman games were over, like, at 5:00. You were like a varsity game. Didn't start at seven.
00;20;23;05 - 00;20;25;06
CJ
You did this all four years through high school. What do you know?
00;20;25;07 - 00;20;26;00
Big Al
I did not do.
00;20;26;02 - 00;20;46;19
CJ
Anyway, man. Anyway, look, bro. Yeah. So, you know, the National Football League just has an there's a natural advantage there, right? And which makes it America's game. That's why the game is so popular in this country. I think because there are no days off in the league. They all count. And when you look at this season, it's in what you just explain the league.
00;20;46;19 - 00;20;57;25
CJ
Did I think it it actually intensifies or increases the intensity of of the season right at the end when it's all again coming to, what's the word I used?
00;20;57;27 - 00;20;58;06
Big Al
Chris.
00;20;58;12 - 00;20;59;11
CJ
No crescendo.
00;20;59;11 - 00;20;59;28
Big Al
It's a band.
00;20;59;28 - 00;21;08;05
CJ
Word. That's a band word. We got our band guy here who, who was blowing the tuba. Don't do that. Yeah, do it again.
00;21;08;07 - 00;21;10;08
Big Al
Do it again. What was I doing?
00;21;10;10 - 00;21;11;27
CJ
Well, that's what.
00;21;11;29 - 00;21;13;24
Big Al
You were doing. That's what you would do.
00;21;13;27 - 00;21;15;06
CJ
Not, man. It's not,
00;21;15;08 - 00;21;18;03
Big Al
Go any further, man. You were doing. There you go. I was doing.
00;21;18;03 - 00;21;20;26
CJ
That. I was doing this.
00;21;20;28 - 00;21;22;11
Big Al
I was doing this.
00;21;22;13 - 00;21;22;28
CJ
You were.
00;21;22;28 - 00;21;25;05
Big Al
Doing that. Now, you.
00;21;25;08 - 00;21;25;29
CJ
Had.
00;21;26;01 - 00;21;30;07
Big Al
In high schools. You were doing that in high school anyway.
00;21;30;10 - 00;21;34;10
CJ
Anyway, both this.
00;21;34;13 - 00;21;41;05
Big Al
I'm gonna call you Trombone Shorty from now on.
00;21;41;08 - 00;21;53;26
CJ
Man, we said, Anyway, man, I got. The Broncos finished finishing the season. 13 and four due to what's left on that schedule, as we just pointed out.
00;21;53;26 - 00;22;00;22
Big Al
Hey, man, if we can win it, if we can win, if we got 500 the last four games, that's a that's a that's a hell of a deal.
00;22;00;23 - 00;22;04;11
CJ
But here's the problem. It places you second in the car.
00;22;04;18 - 00;22;26;09
Big Al
It's okay. Okay. It's long. It's. Listen, if we have to go to New England to play a championship game, I don't believe it's going to happen. I don't believe that the Patriots are quite ready to, to get to the AFC Championship game. We're more ready than they are because our defense travels the Colts. It's the culture out of it, right?
00;22;26;11 - 00;22;46;29
Big Al
I'm thinking about the AFC, and making the AFC East in and and I don't see the Buffalo Bills. If, if, if, if there's a chance for the bills to match up with the Patriots in the postseason I got the bills.
00;22;47;01 - 00;22;47;13
CJ
Okay.
00;22;47;13 - 00;22;51;08
Big Al
So I got the bills against both of these teams in a playoffs.
00;22;51;15 - 00;23;16;28
CJ
Yeah. See I think I think it's hard to let sort of old habits go. And for us as football fans we are like habitually aligned with what yesterday was the past. There was no expectation that we would be talk that we thought coming into the season, we'd be talking about Buffalo finishing second in that division. They were a cakewalk to win that division.
00;23;17;01 - 00;23;28;29
CJ
They are now two games behind the New England Patriots. We thought coming into this season that the Kansas City Chiefs was going to once again bump their head on division championship number, what, 10 or 11 in the road?
00;23;29;00 - 00;23;33;08
Big Al
Nobody knew that Travis Kelce was going to, call it in.
00;23;33;11 - 00;23;33;20
CJ
But.
00;23;33;23 - 00;23;52;25
Big Al
And say and say that he's done. I'm getting married and I'm retiring. I mean Travis Kelce man. I told he was making business decisions at the beginning of the year. Well and and these drops in that the sluggishness that in which he plays with is a characteristic for an aging player which I believe that he is.
00;23;52;25 - 00;23;53;24
CJ
Yeah. But I think I.
00;23;53;29 - 00;23;58;28
Big Al
I, I don't, I don't I don't, I don't think he's anything less than a Hall of Fame player. I want to say that he's.
00;23;58;29 - 00;24;03;05
CJ
One of the greats, arguably the greatest. You can make the case that he's the greatest tight end ever play.
00;24;03;07 - 00;24;24;06
Big Al
But I can make the case that he's not. But I will say that he is probably the best pass catching tight end that's played in the NFL. I mean, I'm looking at, you know, you have to be part of the run game and the pass game. The be the the greatest. Well and you you know my man Shannon Sharpe block for a 2000 yard rusher in Baltimore and here in Denver.
00;24;24;06 - 00;24;27;24
Big Al
So I'm I'm partial to Shannon Sharpe.
00;24;27;27 - 00;24;28;16
CJ
Well I mean.
00;24;28;17 - 00;24;29;10
Big Al
I, I'm also
00;24;29;15 - 00;24;30;17
CJ
I am too, but.
00;24;30;17 - 00;24;31;07
Big Al
That doesn't.
00;24;31;09 - 00;24;32;02
CJ
So also,
00;24;32;04 - 00;24;55;08
Big Al
I'll also say that when you have as many drops as Travis Kelce has had in a year, when you are playing for a chance to advance, you know, it's not like Patrick Mahomes is playing bad. And we're talking about this AFC Championship. It's just that the players around him, they really fucking stink. I mean they really fucking worthy.
00;24;55;08 - 00;24;56;21
CJ
Has been a disappointment this year.
00;24;56;21 - 00;24;57;22
Big Al
Listen man that's.
00;24;57;25 - 00;24;58;27
CJ
The next receiver.
00;24;59;00 - 00;25;14;00
Big Al
And I'll tell you I'll also throw this as a caveat okay. The players around him really fucking stink. And on top of that, Andy Reid has lost some something on his fastball as a playcaller at.
00;25;14;00 - 00;25;15;04
CJ
Now, listen.
00;25;15;04 - 00;25;16;23
Big Al
I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you.
00;25;16;23 - 00;25;19;29
CJ
He said his his teammates really f and stink. They really.
00;25;19;29 - 00;25;25;13
Big Al
Fucking stink. They really. I mean, this guy Patrick Mahomes.
00;25;25;16 - 00;25;44;16
Big Al
I think they're I, I don't think there's a franchise that you could give up. I don't think there's a franchise in the NFL that wouldn't give up their starting quarterback. And three first round draft picks for Patrick Mahomes. Maybe. Maybe the Buffalo Bills wouldn't, but they may be the only team.
00;25;44;18 - 00;25;46;20
CJ
That's saying, listen, that's a that's your.
00;25;46;20 - 00;25;59;02
Big Al
Starting quarterback. And I'll give you three years of first round draft picks. Maybe the Buffalo Bills is the only team that wouldn't do that. No. You know you better think Baltimore would do that.
00;25;59;04 - 00;26;02;15
CJ
No. No, I don't think Baltimore would do that.
00;26;02;17 - 00;26;07;05
Big Al
You think Dallas would do that?
00;26;07;07 - 00;26;10;08
CJ
Maybe Dallas, maybe Dallas. And here's the difference.
00;26;10;10 - 00;26;17;05
Big Al
I mean, I just think that that guy is that good, man. But here's the good. He's so solid. He's such a great teammate and the.
00;26;17;06 - 00;26;20;23
CJ
Best quarterback of our sort of of this generation. To be.
00;26;20;29 - 00;26;21;18
Big Al
Brady.
00;26;21;21 - 00;26;53;29
CJ
Arguably the best you can. When Patrick Mahomes is done, you may be able to make the case that he's the greatest to ever do it. But here's the problem if you're not ready to win, if you're not a Patrick Mahomes away from winning a Super Bowl, then you don't do it. Dallas, with those perimeter players and that running back playing the way that he's playing, they may be I don't I don't see see Lamar does so much to make to to sort of boost the level of play of the particularly the perimeter players around him because of his dual threat ability.
00;26;54;02 - 00;27;01;22
CJ
Listen, I don't want to go down his rabbit hole. I think the statement you just made is partially ridiculous, but I'm not going to say is wholly ridiculous.
00;27;01;22 - 00;27;22;07
Big Al
C.J., if there's if maybe there are two teams, but there's the rest of the I mean, we're talking about 29 other teams, 28 other teams in the league that would do that trade all day. Patrick Mahomes, you can have my starting quarterback. Maybe me what the what the Bengals do it maybe.
00;27;22;09 - 00;27;24;12
CJ
Well no I don't think I'm saying so.
00;27;24;13 - 00;27;24;25
Big Al
So if I.
00;27;24;25 - 00;27;25;23
CJ
Don't think the Bengals would do it.
00;27;25;27 - 00;27;29;28
Big Al
If you think about it, if you think about it, he's that transformative.
00;27;29;29 - 00;27;30;24
CJ
No question.
00;27;30;28 - 00;27;39;07
Big Al
As a quarterback what you start thinking you know this guy plus plus his his his demeanor, his.
00;27;39;10 - 00;27;47;15
CJ
You know who wouldn't do it? Who the teams who are at the very but Cleveland Browns wouldn't do it. What why would the Cleveland Browns do that.
00;27;47;18 - 00;27;48;25
Big Al
Trade for Patrick Mahomes.
00;27;48;25 - 00;27;53;13
CJ
So he'll make a three win team a seven win team. What's he give away.
00;27;53;15 - 00;28;02;03
Big Al
No no no no okay man I just okay. You don't understand football. We want to talk about tennis and football. We'll talk about tennis.
00;28;02;03 - 00;28;04;25
CJ
But I hear what I want to talk about tennis. I know what I'm no you don't know about.
00;28;04;25 - 00;28;05;26
Big Al
You don't know shit about tennis.
00;28;05;26 - 00;28;20;25
CJ
Either, bro. You're the one who said who was the quarterback. The pirate that the Broncos drafted in the first round a few years ago. And you said he was going to be the heir apparent to John Elway. Who was it? Why you got that stupid looking grin on your face? Tell me what you know. Nothing about what you're talking about.
00;28;20;28 - 00;28;24;21
CJ
Can I get back to my prediction?
00;28;24;24 - 00;28;28;10
CJ
Who was the quarterback now?
00;28;28;13 - 00;28;36;17
CJ
Who was it? I mean, for excellence. Paxton lit. You said Paxton. This was.
00;28;36;19 - 00;28;41;21
CJ
Tim bloom. Duke. Duke. James, you don't have.
00;28;41;21 - 00;28;47;07
Big Al
That kind of memory. Oh, man. I went all in on Paxton. Lynn.
00;28;47;09 - 00;28;50;03
CJ
Yeah, when he got drafted, man, you'd do a touchdown dances.
00;28;50;09 - 00;28;52;29
Big Al
Oh, Paxton. Man. Unbelievable.
00;28;52;29 - 00;29;08;29
CJ
Anyway, here's the problem for the Broncos with winning two of their last four I got the New England Patriots winning three of the last four. Now before the season started. You look at the last four games. If we looked at the last four games before the season.
00;29;08;29 - 00;29;13;06
Big Al
Start, get us out of the situation where we play the bills.
00;29;13;09 - 00;29;14;27
CJ
Here we go. Right. Another bill.
00;29;14;27 - 00;29;19;11
Big Al
Yeah, that's good stuff. Get it? Get us out of the situation where we have to pay the bills in the playoffs.
00;29;19;12 - 00;29;25;23
CJ
Look man you so 80s. Here's what's next up. We got this is for New England because this is it.
00;29;25;23 - 00;29;29;02
Big Al
That thing is Jerry Carroll is here. Yes he did but.
00;29;29;02 - 00;29;30;26
CJ
Never had a Jerry you did bro.
00;29;30;27 - 00;29;32;09
Big Al
You don't dye your hair either I.
00;29;32;09 - 00;29;41;07
CJ
Always had I don't that my hair and I never had a Jerry always had a tie fade bro. There you go. Black. That's what the red.
00;29;41;09 - 00;29;42;27
CJ
Blood on that trombone.
00;29;42;28 - 00;29;51;01
Big Al
Hey, man, look at this. That's a tuba. What is that, man? Photoshop is shit in there mouth. That's an actual. Hey, man, I don't you know, I didn't play the joke.
00;29;51;02 - 00;29;53;24
CJ
To high school. 1986, bro. That's exact.
00;29;53;24 - 00;29;57;16
Big Al
Man. I played the saxophone. They played the trombone. Do it again. See?
00;29;57;16 - 00;30;11;08
CJ
Day zero. That was you. That you you that you that you never trump dance. Oh, no. Damn, bro. Damn. Wow. Okay, okay.
00;30;11;13 - 00;30;12;10
Big Al
Do that dance again.
00;30;12;10 - 00;30;31;26
CJ
No, no, I'm not doing that in any way with Buffalo. Up next you look at this schedule. The bills and the Ravens both I think are teams that are leaking oil. This is just working out for New England. They are leaking oil right now I don't know. They are. They're just not as good as they were a year ago.
00;30;31;26 - 00;30;32;21
CJ
Two years ago.
00;30;32;26 - 00;30;34;02
Big Al
New England.
00;30;34;05 - 00;30;36;08
CJ
No. Buffalo and Baltimore.
00;30;36;10 - 00;30;40;03
Big Al
Ravens not as good. Who's not? You said New England is not as good.
00;30;40;05 - 00;31;01;07
CJ
I said this is what's left for New England, Buffalo and Baltimore. The Ravens and the bills aren't as good as they used to be. Both of those franchises leaking oil right now. And when you look at the bottom of that four game schedule, you got two of the worst teams, in my opinion, in the National Football League. That's West what New England has facing them right now.
00;31;01;09 - 00;31;14;28
CJ
They've already beaten Buffalo and Baltimore. They're on the road at Baltimore. So that can be a tricky one. I see them winning three of the last four games here. That puts them at 14 and three.
00;31;15;00 - 00;31;30;11
Big Al
They could be 12 and five as well. No they can't have two two losses. They have two losses. You see 1234 right. Well I could see them losing two more games like.
00;31;30;12 - 00;31;31;23
CJ
You need my calculator.
00;31;31;26 - 00;31;33;11
Big Al
So they can be 13 and four as.
00;31;33;11 - 00;31;37;16
CJ
Well. Of course they could be 13 and four but I'll make a smart trip to the screen. It's my.
00;31;37;16 - 00;31;39;26
Big Al
Prediction up to 13 and four.
00;31;40;00 - 00;31;53;12
CJ
I think it's I think they end the season 14 and three, and I think that now to your point, it's not like, you know, assuming both advance to an AFC championship.
00;31;53;12 - 00;31;57;01
Big Al
Game, what does it look like you doing a PBS special dressed like that and see.
00;31;57;01 - 00;31;59;16
CJ
It. Oh you know what man? I'm you people.
00;31;59;16 - 00;32;03;01
Big Al
What is that man you feel like? What's that dude that does that PBS special? No.
00;32;03;01 - 00;32;04;27
CJ
What dude you talking about? But come on, I know the.
00;32;04;27 - 00;32;06;11
Big Al
Guy has a gray beard.
00;32;06;11 - 00;32;08;19
CJ
White guy kind of flat. Oh.
00;32;08;22 - 00;32;09;04
Big Al
You feel.
00;32;09;04 - 00;32;11;03
CJ
Fly? Yeah, I do like you people.
00;32;11;03 - 00;32;12;12
Big Al
What color those shoes?
00;32;12;15 - 00;32;19;21
CJ
Blue suede, man, they boots, by the way, bro. Boots. You got some say about my blue suede.
00;32;19;23 - 00;32;20;17
Big Al
I have nothing you.
00;32;20;17 - 00;32;27;07
CJ
Don't like my blue suede? Take it. Can't. I mean, what.
00;32;27;09 - 00;32;28;23
Big Al
Why, why what.
00;32;28;23 - 00;32;29;15
CJ
Do you mean, why?
00;32;29;16 - 00;32;32;03
Big Al
Why? I mean, it's it's a nice day in Denver.
00;32;32;06 - 00;32;33;12
CJ
It's chilly outside, man.
00;32;33;12 - 00;32;51;06
Big Al
It's not really chilly. It's like sweater day. It's not like a cold jacket day is 50 degrees a day in Denver. Well, I mean, I guess if you want to wear, you know, it's not like it's a lot of slushy in this going on. So I guess, do you pay attention to that before you get dressed like the weather?
00;32;51;06 - 00;32;56;26
CJ
Yeah, I do, I do weather, man. Like kind of the conditions. Yeah. Because I don't want my blue suede shoes to get.
00;32;56;26 - 00;33;01;09
Big Al
You don't want to play the trombone unless you have to.
00;33;01;12 - 00;33;08;07
CJ
I think you need to grow up, man. I think you need to grow up, man. You keep making these references, man.
00;33;08;08 - 00;33;10;28
Big Al
I'm just saying I don't. I'm not one state in the.
00;33;11;01 - 00;33;11;10
CJ
You kind of.
00;33;11;10 - 00;33;12;22
Big Al
Rocking the whole blue thing today.
00;33;12;22 - 00;33;26;18
CJ
Yeah, I feel blue. It's a little blue okay. It's a little blue okay. May I continue. Go ahead. Okay. So I think, the point is New England's. No one's going to be stopped before I know, because I can say something I'm not.
00;33;26;18 - 00;33;27;15
Big Al
I'm not going to just say.
00;33;27;15 - 00;33;27;26
CJ
It, man.
00;33;27;26 - 00;33;33;17
Big Al
Just say I'm nuts. I'm just saying you look at blue today. You look at bro with the dark hair.
00;33;33;19 - 00;33;37;19
CJ
That's right. My natural dark hair. What, am I supposed to be blond?
00;33;37;19 - 00;33;41;23
Big Al
Next time you see me, I'm gonna have fucking black hair too.
00;33;41;25 - 00;33;46;06
CJ
Well, we never see your hair, bro, because you cut your own hair in your kitchen.
00;33;46;08 - 00;33;47;14
Big Al
I don't cut my hair, like, in.
00;33;47;16 - 00;33;54;16
CJ
All spots all over that mouth. Johnny, look, I've been telling you for 20 years. Black. Stop the kitchen cuts. Man.
00;33;54;17 - 00;33;57;04
Big Al
Oh, man. Oh, man, I do a good job. You can go.
00;33;57;04 - 00;34;02;28
CJ
To hell, Rory. You go holla at my man, the lamb. I mean, there's so many great barbers in the metro.
00;34;02;28 - 00;34;06;06
Big Al
Yes, yes I am. I'm a fan of great barbers.
00;34;06;08 - 00;34;08;21
CJ
Well, why don't you? Because I'm telling you.
00;34;08;28 - 00;34;10;04
Big Al
Man, it's about $50.
00;34;10;04 - 00;34;13;28
CJ
Man. Look, man, you get a discount, but you you come in here with the one.
00;34;13;28 - 00;34;15;02
Big Al
That I come in with this.
00;34;15;04 - 00;34;16;02
CJ
I went.
00;34;16;04 - 00;34;16;09
Big Al
On.
00;34;16;09 - 00;34;17;06
CJ
This, I saw.
00;34;17;06 - 00;34;18;07
Big Al
Way too.
00;34;18;07 - 00;34;28;27
CJ
Small. You always have some three quarter zip damn turtleneck. I don't know what it is, man. Some like you, I don't know, and I don't know what the puts the shoes, but put them.
00;34;28;27 - 00;34;30;29
Big Al
On, man. Stop.
00;34;31;01 - 00;34;32;09
CJ
What? Would you get up?
00;34;32;09 - 00;34;32;25
Big Al
So what.
00;34;32;25 - 00;34;46;28
CJ
About moccasins? You see, I wasn't going to say the. You got to two socks up like you a like you in the in a third grade.
00;34;47;00 - 00;34;47;21
CJ
Waiting to go out.
00;34;47;21 - 00;34;47;25
Big Al
To.
00;34;47;25 - 00;34;49;15
CJ
Recess. That man.
00;34;49;17 - 00;34;51;04
Big Al
Side man.
00;34;51;06 - 00;34;51;21
CJ
Now this.
00;34;51;21 - 00;34;58;10
Big Al
Room man. I'm just, moving on. I just said you look like to do from the PBS, and now you get all personal and see it.
00;34;58;13 - 00;35;00;27
CJ
It ain't personal. It's never personal. That.
00;35;00;29 - 00;35;05;22
Big Al
Sorry, man. So you got the Patriots going.
00;35;05;24 - 00;35;06;18
CJ
14 and three.
00;35;06;18 - 00;35;08;14
Big Al
And you got the Broncos going 13.
00;35;08;14 - 00;35;09;18
CJ
And four.
00;35;09;20 - 00;35;10;05
Big Al
Okay.
00;35;10;07 - 00;35;11;29
CJ
Okay.
00;35;12;01 - 00;35;21;28
Big Al
Win the playoffs right. As long as the Broncos are in the playoffs that's all the matter. We have a defense. We got a first. If we get a first game at home I'm good with that. And then the defense should travel.
00;35;22;03 - 00;35;24;05
CJ
Yeah yeah. Listen I think that's that's a good enough.
00;35;24;05 - 00;35;36;19
Big Al
Yeah that that's that's that's the way I look at football. And you bet me one game at home to to to to knock off the rust. Like give me one game at home and knock off the rust. And then your defense travels.
00;35;36;21 - 00;35;51;28
CJ
Defense travels. Here is a question for you. Look at it through this lens of the top 4 or 5 teams in the AFC whose quarterback strikes the most fear in you as you project forward in the playoffs.
00;35;51;28 - 00;35;52;25
Big Al
In the AFC or.
00;35;52;28 - 00;35;53;16
CJ
AFC.
00;35;53;16 - 00;36;19;07
Big Al
In the AFC? Without a doubt, the best quarterback in football is Patrick Mahomes. He's not I don't know if he's make it makes it to the playoffs. Right. So that leaves Josh McDaniels. Josh Josh Allen. Josh. Josh Allen. And then in order you know it goes Josh Allen. And let's hope that Lamar Jackson doesn't make it okay.
00;36;19;10 - 00;36;31;27
Big Al
And those are my top two okay. Hey that that that loss of that loss of the quarterback out there in Indianapolis, Daniel Jones losing him to an Achilles injury. That changes.
00;36;31;27 - 00;36;35;11
CJ
Everything. Well I don't think so. I think that ship was becoming.
00;36;35;13 - 00;36;55;24
Big Al
No more blue as a kid telling you man. C.J. Shane Steichen as a head coach of the Indianapolis Colts as a play caller, is a cold blooded dude. That dude is cold blooded. Okay? I would not want to be against that guy on third down and one third down and two fourth down and one fourth down and two with the game on the line, he's got a call for you.
00;36;55;27 - 00;37;04;17
Big Al
So to Soto about by the way the so does Sean Payton Sean Payton has a call for you. And Shane Steichen has a call for you. So I don't want to see those kind.
00;37;04;17 - 00;37;08;08
CJ
Of now you back to us. So you give it up like a freshman on Farrand Field.
00;37;08;12 - 00;37;10;29
Big Al
No, man. Tell me listen. Listen, man. There's some.
00;37;10;29 - 00;37;12;12
CJ
There's everybody's great saying.
00;37;12;17 - 00;37;29;00
Big Al
That they're not. No no they're not. No no not. And I think this is why I tell you that Andy Reid's lost someone. It's fastball because it looks predictable about what he's going to call the things that he used to call when he was, you know. Yeah, it just happens where you should get stale.
00;37;29;00 - 00;37;30;08
CJ
Well, listen. And I think.
00;37;30;08 - 00;37;43;13
Big Al
It's getting stale in Pittsburgh, you know, and I think Mike Tomlin could be you know, you have you have you have James Harrison and Ben Roethlisberger talking about it's time for him to go. And these are players that play for you.
00;37;43;13 - 00;37;44;11
CJ
That might be the case.
00;37;44;11 - 00;38;11;11
Big Al
You know like like when it gets when is you know it seems that it seems that the fan base can accept that a player gets old, but they really can't accept when a coach gets old. And I think right now we're seeing some coaches get old right in front of our face, and we see some coaches that are innovative, that are change in the game.
00;38;11;11 - 00;38;14;21
Big Al
And I and I believe that change. Steichen is one of those coaches that's changing.
00;38;14;24 - 00;38;16;06
CJ
Ben Johnson, perhaps you might be.
00;38;16;06 - 00;38;16;28
Big Al
Oh, absolutely.
00;38;17;05 - 00;38;45;02
CJ
Johnson. But but here's the reality. Listen, nothing is forever. And when you look at Kansas City and Pittsburgh, the biggest challenge they have this year is that their defenses aren't as dominant as they've been in the past. Chris Jones is not the Chris Jones that's dominated on the defensive side that made that engine go for, Spagnola and that Chiefs defense.
00;38;45;09 - 00;38;48;25
CJ
Same in Pittsburgh.
00;38;48;28 - 00;38;49;25
Big Al
It don't usually show.
00;38;49;25 - 00;38;51;22
CJ
Isn't it isn't. He's not it's.
00;38;51;22 - 00;38;55;01
Big Al
Not a JT. What what.
00;38;55;04 - 00;39;06;00
Big Al
What TJ what? T.J. let me tell you why it doesn't look the same. You don't have a fucking lead when you don't have a lead. Those those great players can't show up and show out.
00;39;06;00 - 00;39;20;02
CJ
Well, look, man, I, I've seen JT Watt himself change T.J.. TJ what? Yeah. Me sad JT TJ what? I've seen him flip games himself with a strip sack or.
00;39;20;05 - 00;39;22;20
Big Al
You you've got to have a third down that matters.
00;39;22;25 - 00;39;27;01
CJ
But you know you're not getting it anymore from those from those defenses. They're just not as dumb.
00;39;27;01 - 00;39;29;21
Big Al
I'm just I'm just going to tell you this, okay.
00;39;29;23 - 00;39;42;00
CJ
And so therefore let me finish this point. And so therefore you write those coaches it's always really been for for me 75% Jimmy's and Joe's, 25% X's and O's.
00;39;42;02 - 00;39;52;07
Big Al
I don't believe that. And more like I think it's more like I think it's more coaching 40% players 60. I think it's closer to that, not 25, 75.
00;39;52;07 - 00;39;53;07
CJ
75, 25.
00;39;53;08 - 00;39;54;13
Big Al
No, man.
00;39;54;15 - 00;39;57;07
CJ
You just said put Patrick Mahomes on any team and.
00;39;57;07 - 00;39;59;28
Big Al
You got a 60% chance of winning games.
00;40;00;00 - 00;40;02;11
CJ
That's that's that's a majority. Jimmy and Joe.
00;40;02;14 - 00;40;10;06
Big Al
Yeah, yeah majority. But I'm telling you the 40% from the coaching is not insignificant. It's not insignificant.
00;40;10;06 - 00;40;13;15
CJ
So you think the head coach at Kansas City all of a sudden forget how to coach?
00;40;13;15 - 00;40;19;26
Big Al
I'm telling you that it's watching the game, watching the game plans. It's not elite. It's not special.
00;40;19;26 - 00;40;33;12
CJ
You know why? Because Travis Kelce is dropping passes. You know why. Because Xavier Worthy is hurt half the season. You know why. Because they're not getting the same production out of Pacheco. And their offensive line is beaten up. That's why it's not.
00;40;33;12 - 00;40;41;02
Big Al
Because him get more creative. You know like you don't you don't hear that shit out of the the bears. You don't hear that shit out of.
00;40;41;03 - 00;40;44;14
CJ
It's been that's been the bears problem for generations.
00;40;44;15 - 00;41;03;10
Big Al
And need to see right now with Ben Johnson. He's dialing up shit that nobody you know is thinking about on third down and two and third down and three. You know, when you were looking at, Josh McDaniels out there in New England, he's giving you he's giving you a plethora of plays that is not in the normal context of how to call an offense.
00;41;03;17 - 00;41;19;26
Big Al
He knows how to block your best player. He knows how to take advantage of your weakest defender. I mean, I'm just telling you that this is not a this is not by accident. Excellence in coaching shows up in this time of year, and this last month is going to really show up.
00;41;19;26 - 00;41;27;12
CJ
Well, we'll see how it plays out. I think you're right. I think there's a difference in coaching which occurs which accounts for about 25 to 30.
00;41;27;13 - 00;41;36;12
Big Al
No man 40%. I'm telling you man, it's like 40%, man. I'm not going to say it's 5050. But I'm telling you, you know coaching coaching coaching matters man.
00;41;36;12 - 00;41;38;13
CJ
Coaching man Andy Reid forgot how to coach.
00;41;38;14 - 00;41;44;05
Big Al
No I didn't say you got out of coach. I said that, you know you become less risk averse the older you get.
00;41;44;06 - 00;41;49;06
CJ
Your old coach your old coach. Forget how to coach Mike Shanahan when he left Denver.
00;41;49;09 - 00;41;54;01
Big Al
And no, he did not because what happened? I think what happened I think what happened is you.
00;41;54;01 - 00;41;55;07
CJ
Think what happened.
00;41;55;10 - 00;41;55;13
Big Al
I.
00;41;55;13 - 00;41;57;18
CJ
Think be more certain what happened.
00;41;57;18 - 00;42;22;18
Big Al
What happened with Coach Shanahan is is ownership and mismanagement from the top down rather than at the coaching position. And so that that's, you know, that's, that I just take the word of God as a coach and an innovator. But there are principles to that. There are principles from coach Shanahan that he takes everywhere that he goes going forward.
00;42;22;18 - 00;42;23;28
Big Al
And that's the run the ball first.
00;42;23;29 - 00;42;24;18
CJ
Who, who.
00;42;24;21 - 00;42;36;29
Big Al
And none of these other coaches that you're talking about has that mentality except Ben Johnson with the with the with the, bears. All the other coaches believe they can win it in the air.
00;42;36;29 - 00;42;41;17
CJ
Who's the greatest coach you think to ever coach at the professional football club.
00;42;41;20 - 00;42;52;10
Big Al
Oh wow. Belichick I would probably say the greatest coach to ever coach at the professional level is Bill walls. Okay I would say Bill Walsh.
00;42;52;10 - 00;42;58;25
CJ
All right. All right. And I and I don't bill Walsh left and he was it was it's George Siefert who came in.
00;42;58;28 - 00;43;03;17
Big Al
And won another championship with that. But that same cast of players with.
00;43;03;17 - 00;43;14;01
CJ
With with a bunch of Hall of Famers on that team. Yeah. Now let me ask you this about Bill Belichick. Did he forget to coach when Tom Brady left and went to Tampa Bay?
00;43;14;04 - 00;43;15;02
Big Al
That's a good question.
00;43;15;02 - 00;43;24;17
CJ
No it's not a good of course is a great question. But the answer is pretty simple. No he didn't forget how to coach. He was the same coach. He didn't have the same player.
00;43;24;17 - 00;43;25;25
Big Al
Bro bro.
00;43;25;27 - 00;43;27;06
CJ
Bro bro.
00;43;27;08 - 00;43;56;00
Big Al
What you're saying, really doesn't jive right now. Because what you're saying is that Daniel Jones. Okay, who was at the Giants okay. Couldn't play. He goes to Indianapolis. He can play. You say Mac Jones, who was over with the, with the Patriots, couldn't play even though you drafted in the first round. Couldn't play. And now he's a reserve quarterback in the NFL.
00;43;56;02 - 00;44;09;13
Big Al
And we couldn't we couldn't he couldn't play. But I can't wait to see what Mac Jones look like when he resurfaces. All I'm telling you is that there is there's a correlation between Tom Brady and championships.
00;44;09;15 - 00;44;10;04
CJ
Okay.
00;44;10;06 - 00;44;16;13
Big Al
Okay. Because without Tom Brady how do you look as a as a as a play caller.
00;44;16;16 - 00;44;18;01
CJ
Look pretty not very great.
00;44;18;03 - 00;44;19;00
Big Al
Okay. Well until you.
00;44;19;00 - 00;44;23;07
CJ
Get another hell of a quarterback which is what they have now.
00;44;23;10 - 00;44;29;17
Big Al
Who said that. You know, Mac Jones couldn't look that way with with Josh McDaniels.
00;44;29;17 - 00;44;32;10
CJ
And well Josh was is OC.
00;44;32;12 - 00;44;34;22
Big Al
Not last year.
00;44;34;24 - 00;44;37;05
CJ
When he was there who was his offensive coordinator I don't.
00;44;37;05 - 00;44;38;06
Big Al
Believe he was there last.
00;44;38;06 - 00;44;39;06
CJ
Year. McDaniels.
00;44;39;06 - 00;44;42;22
Big Al
Not not last year because I know Vrabel.
00;44;42;24 - 00;44;45;23
CJ
Wasn't there last year. Drake Maye was there last year. Yeah.
00;44;45;24 - 00;44;47;09
Big Al
Well Drake me yeah.
00;44;47;11 - 00;44;49;24
CJ
We're talking about Josh. We're talking about.
00;44;49;26 - 00;44;52;28
Big Al
Two three years ago two years ago, three years ago, three years ago.
00;44;53;03 - 00;44;54;29
CJ
When when Matt Jones was there. I don't.
00;44;54;29 - 00;44;58;19
Big Al
Believe that. I don't believe that. I don't believe that he was there with,
00;44;58;22 - 00;45;06;02
CJ
Josh, make that up, man. You got you have what happens with a lot of quarterbacks I think is what you see with Jones.
00;45;06;04 - 00;45;07;29
Big Al
This conversation about.
00;45;08;02 - 00;45;10;11
CJ
About Jimmy's and Joe's versus X's and.
00;45;10;11 - 00;45;13;05
Big Al
O's. And I'm telling you right now the greatest minds.
00;45;13;05 - 00;45;15;21
CJ
And you forget what the conversation was about in the middle of the conversation.
00;45;15;24 - 00;45;32;20
Big Al
Listen, the greatest, the greatest minds in football are in, I think in New England and in Denver. No longer in Kansas City.
00;45;32;22 - 00;45;34;10
CJ
He just forgot how to be great.
00;45;34;13 - 00;45;44;24
Big Al
No, I think this is also on Spagnola two. He forgot how to be great. I'm telling you, once you've been studied and figured out, it's hard to change your DNA.
00;45;44;25 - 00;45;46;11
CJ
So he let me get this right.
00;45;46;11 - 00;45;47;15
Big Al
He's been studying and figured out.
00;45;47;15 - 00;45;48;06
CJ
So this guy, he's.
00;45;48;06 - 00;45;54;10
Big Al
But I guarantee you, the Kansas City Chiefs is the most study team in the NFL over the last five years.
00;45;54;10 - 00;46;06;03
CJ
So for ten years they've dominated. Yeah. And and it took and it took 11 for the league to finally figure them out. Or are those players not the same as they were.
00;46;06;03 - 00;46;07;14
Big Al
When they didn't win a Super Bowl last.
00;46;07;14 - 00;46;09;08
CJ
Year, seven years ago? They still dominate.
00;46;09;09 - 00;46;09;18
Big Al
Okay.
00;46;09;18 - 00;46;12;13
CJ
But they went to the Super Bowl. Come on man.
00;46;12;16 - 00;46;15;08
Big Al
Well going in went in two separate deals.
00;46;15;09 - 00;46;16;14
CJ
Can I talk about something else with.
00;46;16;15 - 00;46;24;24
Big Al
No I'm I'm just I'm I just want to I just want to make this point really clear. Okay. Going to the Super Bowl and winning the Super Bowl are two separate deals.
00;46;24;24 - 00;46;26;29
CJ
We kind of I get that okay.
00;46;27;02 - 00;46;38;20
Big Al
And I'm telling you when you've been to in the championship game for as many years as the, Chiefs have been in the championship, game, they're the most study team in football.
00;46;38;21 - 00;46;41;28
CJ
Yeah, it's it's almost,
00;46;42;00 - 00;47;08;28
Big Al
Double the effort that we come up with with, exciting plays that generate offense the way that Andy Reid used to do it when he first got there with Tyreek Hill and with, Patrick Mahomes, because you've seen all of these iterations of these plays. You know what to expect. You know what to prepare for. You got to come with a brand new offensive scheme.
00;47;09;03 - 00;47;30;13
Big Al
And once again, the only one that really makes sense of the teams that are winning right now that if they if they get an equal playing ground, I think is the, I think it's the, the bears because they, they believe in running the football. You know, the Broncos don't believe in running the football. The bills the bills actually do a good job running.
00;47;30;19 - 00;47;56;12
Big Al
So bills run the football effectively. It's not how they built the offense. Okay. The Ravens because the Ravens run the football effectively okay. And then you start looking at the rest of the teams. Man in the NFL man. Like you know Josh Jacobs is out there in green Bay. And I think he's doing a good job. But the teams that can run the football okay that will those are the teams to be worry about in the playoffs.
00;47;56;12 - 00;47;57;28
CJ
And they're not very many.
00;47;58;01 - 00;48;02;04
Big Al
You know the Broncos are not one of them. That's why I don't have them winning the Super Bowl.
00;48;02;07 - 00;48;04;09
CJ
Do you have them winning the AFC. You haven't get into the Super.
00;48;04;09 - 00;48;26;07
Big Al
Bowl I don't believe I don't believe they're going to win AFC. I don't believe they can because that that's just not their DNA. And they don't believe it. They don't believe it okay. You know what I'm saying. When the head coach you know when the head coach doesn't call plays for the running game in high frequency, it's because he believes the best way to score is what the quarterback's on and control the game is what the quarterbacks on.
00;48;26;11 - 00;48;48;27
Big Al
So I don't believe that in a in a pinch. You know, I had this stat when I was playing football. And you can always tell who's a quarterback. Excuse me who the offensive coordinator was on third and third and three and plus territory. Okay. I want you to think about this. Third and three and plus territory.
00;48;48;29 - 00;48;50;29
CJ
Do you run or do you pass?
00;48;51;01 - 00;49;17;22
Big Al
Do you run a do you pass in the teams that will run the ball 30% or more on third down and three and plus territory, believe that they can get four yards on two running plays because you end up invariably maybe it's fourth down and one if you don't get it, okay. And if it's fourth down and one, well, we can certainly get two.
00;49;17;25 - 00;49;27;00
Big Al
So why not run it again. So those teams though, those teams that they're not a lot of those teams that will run the ball on third down and three.
00;49;27;02 - 00;49;30;23
CJ
Which I think is a mistake I do too. But teams aren't built that way.
00;49;30;23 - 00;49;35;13
Big Al
But I'm telling you third down and three for NFL teams are passing down.
00;49;35;13 - 00;49;35;27
CJ
Yes.
00;49;36;04 - 00;49;53;29
Big Al
So when you look at third down and three on a team that are run at 30% of the time, they're telling you right now and plus plus 50 territory. So we're talking about this may happen in the course of a year 12 times. And you look at that way that the offensive coordinator called a play. That's who they are.
00;49;54;02 - 00;50;08;00
CJ
Oh I totally, totally agree with that. Now that's the one thing you've said. And this argument that actually makes sense I totally agree. You you get a feel for the personality of a team or what the team believe they are on third and three.
00;50;08;00 - 00;50;08;14
Big Al
That's right.
00;50;08;14 - 00;50;09;16
CJ
And plus territory.
00;50;09;16 - 00;50;32;20
Big Al
And plus territory. Absolutely. It's probably the biggest stat. And my old defensive coordinator Ron Leonard used to talk about that stat. All the time. The Cincinnati Bengals one of very few things on that that I took from there.
00;50;32;22 - 00;50;44;21
Big Al
That that stat has held up. It's held up better than any stat that will exist for me. And offensive football and the play the play caller mentality.
00;50;44;26 - 00;50;47;15
CJ
Okay, so we have some campaign.
00;50;47;16 - 00;51;24;01
Big Al
I guarantee you on third down and three, I bet you Sean Payton is more. If you look at the career of third down and three and I don't know how to do this, but if you go back and look at Sean Payton, third down and three plus.
00;51;24;04 - 00;51;25;10
CJ
Okay Jimmy's and Joe's.
00;51;25;15 - 00;51;26;20
Big Al
He's got some great running backs.
00;51;26;20 - 00;51;39;02
CJ
Can I can I talk about something else man. Because you've, by the way, you didn't give you a prediction. I got I got the Broncos 13 and four winning two of their last four. And I have the New England Patriots.
00;51;39;04 - 00;51;45;13
Big Al
And you're not going to like this. You're not going to like this I got the Broncos winning one game coming down the stretch.
00;51;45;16 - 00;52;06;22
CJ
Wow. Wait a minute. Which one can can we get that schedule back up. The Broncos last four games at home against green Bay. Did they win that one. No. Wow. Okay. What do we have home against home against Jacksonville.
00;52;06;24 - 00;52;10;25
Big Al
That's the game that I have them winning okay.
00;52;10;26 - 00;52;12;07
CJ
At Kansas City.
00;52;12;10 - 00;52;12;28
Big Al
I have that as a.
00;52;12;28 - 00;52;22;19
CJ
Loss. And then home against the Chargers. Chargers which again for the Chargers that could be.
00;52;22;22 - 00;52;23;22
Big Al
I have that as a loss.
00;52;23;22 - 00;52;29;04
CJ
That's interesting. So you got the Broncos finish that finishing at 12 and five.
00;52;29;05 - 00;52;35;19
Big Al
And which gives them a chance to have a home playoff game. And that defense travels.
00;52;35;22 - 00;52;45;18
CJ
If you have the Broncos finishing at 12 and five and losing to Jacksonville Jacksonville.
00;52;45;20 - 00;52;46;14
Big Al
It doesn't matter.
00;52;46;14 - 00;52;47;00
CJ
It doesn't.
00;52;47;00 - 00;52;55;17
Big Al
Second it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter as long as the Broncos get one home game to get their feet wet, to get their playoff stride rolling.
00;52;55;17 - 00;52;58;08
CJ
Oh, so you're saying this isn't a forget about Super Bowl.
00;52;58;09 - 00;53;05;00
Big Al
It's by the by yeah I don't I don't believe they're ready I don't believe that I I've been saying that since the beginning of the year. Like they need one more.
00;53;05;00 - 00;53;07;09
CJ
Year like they're 11 and two with four games left.
00;53;07;09 - 00;53;19;25
Big Al
Bro, I understand that. I'm telling you, I'm just I'm, I'm. But I also said they're just not ready yet. They haven't had their heart broken quite enough yet. That's what I said from the beginning of the year. I'm not fucking backing down, but.
00;53;19;25 - 00;53;22;24
CJ
That's one of those old just throwaway cliches.
00;53;22;24 - 00;53;23;06
Big Al
Okay?
00;53;23;06 - 00;53;24;21
CJ
They haven't had their,
00;53;24;24 - 00;53;32;25
Big Al
How do you how do you equate this then how do you equate all of my football knowledge to. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm telling.
00;53;32;25 - 00;53;36;08
CJ
You that I know a lot of guys who played a lot of football, who don't know what the hell they're talking.
00;53;36;08 - 00;53;53;11
Big Al
About. I'm telling you that in this business, to win a championship, first of all, the Broncos are built, right? Because the money is already taken care of. The front office does a great job of taking care of the money. There's not a whole lot of talk about, hey, this guy needs this contract. And that guy like the Broncos don't deal with that.
00;53;53;11 - 00;53;54;19
CJ
So let's get back to the heartbreak.
00;53;54;19 - 00;54;06;18
Big Al
So the heartbreak, the heartbreak is grinding. And they may need one more playmaker a wide receiver. You know what I'm saying. Like they may need one more playmaker a wide receiver. They may.
00;54;06;18 - 00;54;08;01
CJ
Need.
00;54;08;03 - 00;54;11;09
Big Al
They may need one more running back.
00;54;11;11 - 00;54;13;06
CJ
Who's who's.
00;54;13;06 - 00;54;14;02
Big Al
Down for it.
00;54;14;03 - 00;54;14;13
CJ
Okay.
00;54;14;19 - 00;54;31;25
Big Al
No. And and that and that and that happen. You know. And that's that's what I see. I'm not telling you they don't have great playmakers or guys that will compete. I'm telling you that you get to a point where you say, man, we just need one more thing. We're not quite there yet.
00;54;32;00 - 00;54;48;06
CJ
But here's the here's the I agree, I don't disagree with that.
00;54;48;08 - 00;54;50;06
Big Al
You said win a Super Bowl.
00;54;50;06 - 00;54;52;19
CJ
Well, let's just get there in order to.
00;54;52;21 - 00;54;55;07
Big Al
Win a Super Bowl. And I told you we're not quite there yet.
00;54;55;08 - 00;54;59;23
CJ
Well who's there?
00;54;59;25 - 00;55;01;28
Big Al
Who's there?
00;55;02;01 - 00;55;07;25
CJ
Based on Big Al's heart broke, heart breaking, criteria. Who's there?
00;55;07;27 - 00;55;13;20
Big Al
If Kansas City gets in there and if, bro. Bro, the bills, the if the.
00;55;13;22 - 00;55;15;15
CJ
City has a losing record right now, they.
00;55;15;15 - 00;55;17;01
Big Al
Do. If they get it, it's.
00;55;17;01 - 00;55;18;03
CJ
Not a good it's not a very.
00;55;18;03 - 00;55;21;12
Big Al
Good. They get in I guarantee you nobody wants to play them.
00;55;21;14 - 00;55;23;28
CJ
Nobody probably is likely not to have to play.
00;55;23;29 - 00;55;28;20
Big Al
Okay. Well if they get in Buffalo you know nobody wants to play Buffalo.
00;55;28;26 - 00;55;51;08
CJ
We keep talking about who no one wants to play. I'm just I'm saying who's your team? Who's going to win the Super Bowl? Who fits your criteria. The Rams.
00;55;51;11 - 00;55;54;09
Big Al
I think the Rams are a lock to win the Super Bowl.
00;55;54;10 - 00;55;59;18
CJ
Who's got who. Who are they going to beat in the Super Bowl.
00;55;59;21 - 00;56;02;08
Big Al
I think they'll be.
00;56;02;10 - 00;56;04;29
Big Al
I think they'll be the bills team.
00;56;05;01 - 00;56;09;18
CJ
Wow. You just you just go and talk man. Talk. Yeah. You just go on top.
00;56;09;18 - 00;56;10;22
Big Al
Would be the Patriots.
00;56;10;22 - 00;56;13;02
CJ
No, no I said they would.
00;56;13;05 - 00;56;13;11
Big Al
Be the.
00;56;13;11 - 00;56;16;05
CJ
Broncos. It's the bills. It's no.
00;56;16;06 - 00;56;20;21
Big Al
Because Matthew Stafford is playing football at another level right now.
00;56;20;21 - 00;56;21;18
CJ
He's better now I think.
00;56;21;18 - 00;56;36;13
Big Al
Than listen man Matthew Stafford I agree with that. And that that team out there with the with the Rams are playing. And listen they have they may have three teams in the playoffs. I mean you're talking about the Seattle Seahawks being in the playoffs and the 40 Niners.
00;56;36;17 - 00;56;40;24
CJ
That's the sleeper team now. Oh the Seahawks that's the sleeper.
00;56;40;24 - 00;56;46;17
Big Al
Team I tell you what that dude that AA said Sam Darnold is playing some damn football out there.
00;56;46;19 - 00;56;48;17
CJ
Now he's a he's a football playing.
00;56;48;19 - 00;56;51;04
Big Al
He's a football playing Jesse. That's his football.
00;56;51;06 - 00;56;53;01
CJ
That's the dumbest thing I've ever let me take.
00;56;53;01 - 00;57;08;04
Big Al
But I'm gonna tell you right now man if you beat the Rams in a month I mean, I know they had a bad loss couple weeks ago, but if you beat the Rams in the playoffs, you're going to have to you have to bring you got to bring a hell of a game plan. You got to I mean Detroit beat them last year.
00;57;08;04 - 00;57;15;09
Big Al
And you know, that was that was a shootout of a game. And if you beat the Rams this year, you're going to have to have your A-plus game.
00;57;15;15 - 00;57;24;26
CJ
It's funny because the Rams in the Lions play this upcoming.
00;57;24;28 - 00;57;47;15
CJ
See Busters hired man. When you talk about innovation and young offensive minds this kid I shouldn't call him a kid. Young man I think he's in his mid 30s. Brennan Marion, head coach at SAC State, but he's been well traveled Unlv, University of Texas, known for being a premier recruiter. But more than that, known.
00;57;47;15 - 00;57;50;18
Big Al
For that mean he's going to get on an airplane and go get a kid.
00;57;50;20 - 00;57;55;03
CJ
Well, just as long as they show up and play football for. See, I don't know how. I don't care how he get them.
00;57;55;03 - 00;57;56;18
Big Al
How do you become a premier recruiter?
00;57;56;21 - 00;58;00;09
CJ
Because you recruit great players. Okay?
00;58;00;11 - 00;58;02;17
Big Al
They come in, Grady. You make them great.
00;58;02;19 - 00;58;06;01
CJ
I don't listen if they turn out great, you'll just take them, right? Okay.
00;58;06;01 - 00;58;14;02
Big Al
If they turn out. But but it's not like this kid's a five star recruiting. Greatness means that you go get a five star and you bring them in.
00;58;14;02 - 00;58;16;08
CJ
You don't want a five star, left. Five star. Okay.
00;58;16;11 - 00;58;19;19
Big Al
Yeah. I don't know if anything that makes Colorado better, okay.
00;58;19;21 - 00;58;21;04
CJ
I don't. What's your point?
00;58;21;07 - 00;58;26;15
Big Al
I'm just saying, you just said recruiting superstars is what makes them. This is what makes them a superstar.
00;58;26;21 - 00;58;28;15
CJ
Because you recruit great players.
00;58;28;17 - 00;58;30;04
Big Al
Do they come?
00;58;30;07 - 00;58;31;06
CJ
What do you mean, do they come?
00;58;31;06 - 00;58;33;03
Big Al
They come to the University of Colorado.
00;58;33;04 - 00;58;39;02
CJ
Well, if you don't get them to come, then you were not a great recruiter. The point of being a great recruiter so that you.
00;58;39;05 - 00;58;46;18
Big Al
And and therefore I ask you, is he on the road going to recruit? Because that's not the DNA of the University of Colorado athletic program.
00;58;46;18 - 00;59;02;14
CJ
I don't know. See you now. I think has what, 4 or 5 of their 11 or 12 commits? I think 4 or 5, 5 or 6 of them are four star. I don't know how they get them. I'm not I'm not locked into a what the philosophy is I don't care. They don't camp. Yeah. Just throw up on camp.
00;59;02;14 - 00;59;02;26
Big Al
Me too.
00;59;03;01 - 00;59;12;21
CJ
That's all that matters. And so this, this young man, again, there's a lot of fanfare behind this hike. A lot of folks are excited in the college football, right? So let's.
00;59;12;25 - 00;59;17;06
Big Al
Let's, let's let's revisit okay. Let's revisit. Okay.
00;59;17;06 - 00;59;19;01
CJ
Because you want to revisit.
00;59;19;05 - 00;59;29;07
Big Al
We got to revisit the conversation at the beginning of the year.
00;59;29;09 - 01;00;01;00
Big Al
We got to revisit the conversation that happened last year. Why was it that I could see what was lacking in the coach on the offensive side. But Coach Program couldn't see it. What what was it. What was it. What was it about coach Pat Shurmur that he couldn't see was not an innovative play caller that was the best option for the University of Colorado.
01;00;01;00 - 01;00;14;18
Big Al
Why did we have to go through this past season? Why do we have to suffer through last season as a play caller, even though we had nine wins last year? And and you say, well, what are you talking about? If we had an NFL quarterback.
01;00;14;26 - 01;00;17;06
CJ
Okay, who by the way, we'll get to in a second. Okay.
01;00;17;06 - 01;00;17;16
Big Al
We have.
01;00;17;17 - 01;00;18;02
CJ
Four.
01;00;18;06 - 01;00;39;28
Big Al
We have four receivers that plant that are playing in the NFL. And we couldn't come up with game plans to get us into the college football playoffs. The only teams that end up with a quarterback in the NFL. You got to remember on average on average in the NFL there are only five guys that make the active roster that are drafted at squad.
01;00;40;00 - 01;00;51;29
Big Al
Drafted at quarterback in the NFL annually. Five guys, that's it. Okay, okay. I mean, five guys. We had one of those guys at the University of Colorado.
01;00;52;01 - 01;00;52;27
CJ
And for.
01;00;52;27 - 01;00;53;19
Big Al
Starting.
01;00;53;22 - 01;00;55;00
CJ
Had a Heisman Trophy winner and.
01;00;55;00 - 01;01;05;26
Big Al
A Heisman Trophy winner, and we got nine wins and we got him thoroughly embarrassed in the bowl game. How come we had to go through last season with the shit we had at offensive coordinator.
01;01;05;29 - 01;01;08;06
CJ
Because we didn't have a great offensive coordinator.
01;01;08;09 - 01;01;19;15
Big Al
Why do we have to go through this season a good. Couldn't you have seen that it was faulty. Like why do we have to go through this. Why do we have to get through?
01;01;19;18 - 01;01;22;04
Big Al
All right, man, let's move on.
01;01;22;06 - 01;01;24;28
CJ
What was what was that all about, man? You just like, it's like because.
01;01;24;29 - 01;01;28;08
Big Al
I told you that it was, like, offensive coordinator last.
01;01;28;08 - 01;01;32;14
CJ
Year. I feel like I just had just watched you go through labor pains, man. And this was like.
01;01;32;19 - 01;01;48;26
Big Al
Because you get to a point where it's just fatigue is fatigue. You keep on saying, listen, that doesn't work or that doesn't work. Why is the door holding the ball last year? Why is he taking so many sacks is, you know, halfway through his second year when Shurmur took over?
01;01;49;03 - 01;01;50;01
CJ
I'm gonna let you just get it all.
01;01;50;03 - 01;01;52;04
Big Al
No, I'm just saying, like, just pull up all.
01;01;52;06 - 01;01;52;19
CJ
The old.
01;01;52;19 - 01;01;55;00
Big Al
Hits. No. Okay. The old hits. I'm telling.
01;01;55;00 - 01;01;58;02
CJ
You, I bring up a new, innovative offensive coordinator that's decided to.
01;01;58;02 - 01;02;04;28
Big Al
Come and say, why didn't you? Why didn't you seek him out? Why didn't you seek him out before the start of this season? Why did you have to. Why don't you have to drag on?
01;02;04;29 - 01;02;23;27
CJ
I don't know why did the Broncos lose to Jacksonville in the in the year? I mean, you keep asking me why didn't they do it before. They didn't man I don't I don't know why you know this I guess the you know, the answer was, I don't know. What's the point of bringing up why they didn't do some.
01;02;23;29 - 01;02;27;20
CJ
I'm talking about what they just did this year, and I'm talking about we shouldn't.
01;02;27;21 - 01;02;33;11
Big Al
Went into this year with the same coaching staff. We shouldn't have. We shouldn't.
01;02;33;11 - 01;02;34;14
CJ
Have. Okay, that's.
01;02;34;15 - 01;02;39;19
Big Al
And I know you may say this is revisionist history. Not at the season's over, but I was saying.
01;02;39;20 - 01;02;40;28
CJ
Last year I think.
01;02;40;28 - 01;02;45;22
Big Al
I was saying it last year when we had this plethora of talent out and I was saying like.
01;02;45;29 - 01;02;46;13
CJ
This.
01;02;46;13 - 01;03;01;01
Big Al
This talent is not being used properly. I think it's just I think about our decisions that we've made. I'm going to be offensive coordinator, offensive coordinator. I'm going to ask you to get over your frustration. Okay? I'm done.
01;03;01;03 - 01;03;13;18
CJ
The season's behind. It's over. I'm projecting for now. What I will say in hindsight, the only thing I would say is given this guy, this check, this new go go offense, it's a real innovative offense.
01;03;13;18 - 01;03;17;08
Big Al
The guy has done an amazing job problem at all. That's a problem if you don't think it was a problem at all.
01;03;17;08 - 01;03;35;16
CJ
No, clearly it was a problem. But I'm not going to bellyache about it on December 9th or 10th, whatever it is, I'm not going to act like a little and a little schoolgirl just crying about it because it happened. I got it, and you cried about it a lot on this show. Like, if you just want to cry.
01;03;35;18 - 01;03;37;05
Big Al
About it over on radio.
01;03;37;08 - 01;03;42;26
CJ
Just cry. Just keep crying. I don't want to cry, bro. But I bring up this dude.
01;03;42;27 - 01;03;44;05
Big Al
Young I don't, I don't, I don't.
01;03;44;05 - 01;03;46;12
CJ
Innovative coordinator man. And all you want to do is keep crying.
01;03;46;12 - 01;03;48;20
Big Al
No, I'm just saying I'm just like I'm not.
01;03;48;20 - 01;03;51;19
CJ
Here's the one thing. Just set up for a second, man.
01;03;51;21 - 01;03;53;12
Big Al
You shut up.
01;03;53;14 - 01;03;54;28
CJ
Here's the one thing I would say.
01;03;54;29 - 01;04;06;19
Big Al
Why don't you just shut up so we can just shut up? This is Shut Up podcast. When nobody talks.
01;04;06;21 - 01;04;25;28
CJ
I wish, I think, I think to your oh, the only merit I would give to your point. I think this coordinator would have been an incredible coordinator given what he does offensively for Caden Salters. And I do think this season would have been wholly.
01;04;25;28 - 01;04;31;00
Big Al
Different if BYU was playing in a BYU was playing and now.
01;04;31;00 - 01;04;32;00
CJ
You know, there you go.
01;04;32;00 - 01;04;39;26
Big Al
12 there you go. Coming up, big 12 championship game BYU a talentless team.
01;04;39;28 - 01;04;44;29
CJ
No, they're not a talent a talent list. That is ridiculous. That that team that is.
01;04;44;29 - 01;05;07;29
Big Al
He is a well coached team. That team is a well coached team that does not have the talent base that we have. We should have ran circles around that team. I mean, we should have rent circles around that team. And you get to the end of the year and you look at these teams, you go back and look at them say, we we had more talent, that team, that team, that team.
01;05;08;02 - 01;05;27;23
Big Al
And you know what? They are coaches. That's the bottom line. We shouldn't have lost to BYU. That's not a very talented team, not a very talented team at all. And we were playing against a freshman quarterback who was making a start after 4 or 5 games after playing high school ball. You shouldn't have lost to that team. Sorry man, that team does not have a lot of talent.
01;05;28;00 - 01;05;41;04
Big Al
Sorry that they're well coached. Team, but you should not have lost to that team.
01;05;41;06 - 01;05;43;14
CJ
Yeah.
01;05;43;16 - 01;05;47;03
CJ
He done.
01;05;47;05 - 01;05;54;18
CJ
I mean, you just keep playing the same old record over and over again. Every show.
01;05;54;21 - 01;05;58;25
CJ
I mean, damn, what do you want, man? What do you want me to say?
01;05;58;27 - 01;06;04;23
Big Al
I want you to say you're right, Alfred. We did not have a great coaching staff. I want you to say that you're.
01;06;04;23 - 01;06;07;08
CJ
Right, Alfred. We did not have a great coaching staff.
01;06;07;08 - 01;06;07;26
Big Al
Why did.
01;06;07;26 - 01;06;09;00
CJ
I.
01;06;09;02 - 01;06;18;15
Big Al
Recognize that before? The current head coach of the team before Deion Prime time Sanders. Why did I have to recognize that before?
01;06;18;15 - 01;06;43;27
CJ
Hey, look, man, before you injure yourself, pat yourself on the back for recognizing that we didn't have a great offensive coordinator. I think that was pretty universally felt. It was what people were saying, prior to the season. Now, why Coach Prime didn't didn't make a move earlier. It could be for any number of reasons. Perhaps we can get him on the show, man, and we can ask him that question.
01;06;43;29 - 01;07;02;18
CJ
But that's beside the point. Like, you can't answer that question, nor can I. You can keep bitching and moaning about it every show, all we can with the exciting news that we have and the promise of a outstanding young quarterback.
01;07;02;20 - 01;07;04;22
Big Al
I don't even know if he's going to stay.
01;07;04;24 - 01;07;06;04
CJ
What?
01;07;06;06 - 01;07;19;07
Big Al
You know, if he's going to stay, there's a lot of money out. That man is a lot of money, a lot of money out there. I don't know if he's going to stay on you. I don't even know if our top five players that we have on the team are going to be here next year. I don't know.
01;07;19;09 - 01;07;20;07
CJ
I mean, let's be we got to wait.
01;07;20;11 - 01;07;21;14
Big Al
We got to wait and see.
01;07;21;17 - 01;07;25;27
CJ
Yeah, I can see right now we can have a productive conversation about you have.
01;07;25;27 - 01;07;36;23
Big Al
The last coaching debacle. I don't know if I, if I was if I was a player on this team, I'd be looking for a way out and more money. Why would you stick around after that?
01;07;36;25 - 01;07;42;21
CJ
Are you endorsing are you suggesting that the players who may be listening to the show should just go? Do you encourage and encourage.
01;07;42;21 - 01;07;48;00
Big Al
And all of these dudes go get to paper. Go get a paper, man. This this is this is.
01;07;48;05 - 01;07;57;17
CJ
Well, why don't you just take out a full page ad in one of the local papers? How about the Daily Camera and say, hey, if you play for the University of Colorado, that is not what I'm saying. Well, what I'm.
01;07;57;17 - 01;08;00;17
Big Al
Saying I'm saying this to all college student athletes right.
01;08;00;17 - 01;08;02;02
CJ
Now. No, you.
01;08;02;02 - 01;08;22;16
Big Al
Said don't get the paper, man. And then if I was here, if I was here and I was in question about whether or not I was going to return, and that was a better offer from a school with more established, continuity, I would go, I'm telling you right now, in today's environment, I would go, wow, I would go, there's no hey, hey.
01;08;22;22 - 01;08;23;05
CJ
I hear you.
01;08;23;05 - 01;08;43;20
Big Al
Been, you know, and you know what? We're going to open up the portal and don't be surprised if we see somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 kids end up at the University of Colorado that were not here last year. And after already going through this process, that seems like a huge turnover. But we'll see. I mean, it was such a dysfunctional year this year.
01;08;43;22 - 01;08;53;24
CJ
Look, I, here's what I'd say. The point of me bringing up Brendan, man, we still hadn't talked about this. Who had native, who I think brings so much promise with his innovative approach.
01;08;53;25 - 01;08;56;03
Big Al
Love your sense of the positive attitude.
01;08;56;05 - 01;09;06;18
CJ
Maybe we can get to that on a different day because right now my partner is just, he's inconsolable. I mean, he's just. Every time I mention it, he's he's asking these. Tell him players to leave.
01;09;06;18 - 01;09;20;02
Big Al
He's. I'm not telling players to leave. I'm telling you. He just said I'm telling them not to go. Listen, I'm telling you if there is. If there is $50,000 more and a more stable coaching environment, I will be gone.
01;09;20;02 - 01;09;23;06
CJ
Okay. All right. Can we talk about, I love the.
01;09;23;09 - 01;09;30;13
Big Al
Money. I love the fact that we talk about college players and money. I love that love the whole thing.
01;09;30;13 - 01;09;30;27
CJ
Okay.
01;09;30;29 - 01;09;35;07
Big Al
College players getting paid. I love that whole thing.
01;09;35;14 - 01;10;07;13
CJ
Here's my message. Right. If if you're if you will see you both and you see the promise of do your homework and you see the promise of this new offensive coordinator who, who's had nothing but success, extremely successful offenses run the hell out of the ball, spare a splash, play guy with this new, innovative offense. And if that does anything for you in terms of just being excited about the future of this program, then I say lock in and commit to what?
01;10;07;13 - 01;10;10;04
CJ
The commitment that you made. That's my message to counter.
01;10;10;04 - 01;10;12;03
Big Al
What come the leave your counter.
01;10;12;04 - 01;10;15;02
CJ
The leave message that you just heard commitment from this.
01;10;15;02 - 01;10;17;01
Big Al
Guy. And so with.
01;10;17;01 - 01;10;22;05
CJ
That man let's let's talk about money in college football. Let's talk about this both team.
01;10;22;05 - 01;10;36;25
Big Al
What even didn't even start here at the university. What are you talking about? Commitment. Don't do that man. We're done with that. You just said that those days are over. We had this conversation last week. Those days are done. Yeah. There's no the nostalgia of commitment and and.
01;10;36;25 - 01;10;39;10
CJ
Okay, well, let me let me unifying voice football.
01;10;39;13 - 01;10;39;25
Big Al
That's what.
01;10;39;25 - 01;10;40;26
CJ
This is. Let me a man.
01;10;40;28 - 01;10;41;26
Big Al
Singing a fight song.
01;10;41;27 - 01;10;59;28
CJ
Let me amend my my comment that to add to what I just said, if you're a player out there who's a hell of a player and you might look at Colorado and say, hey, I, I love what they're doing over there, I like the move that they made with this young, very innovative, come on. The Colorado.
01;10;59;29 - 01;11;03;02
Big Al
Yeah. Hit the trash like that. Like that I like that.
01;11;03;07 - 01;11;09;15
CJ
So it could be a two way thing. I want you I wants all of my players to leave. And I want great players to come in.
01;11;09;18 - 01;11;32;24
Big Al
That's not what I said. I said if I was one of those kids and I'm just being honest about this, if I was one of those kids and there was an opportunity for me to find a more stable situation where I could excel in the offensive or defensive philosophy was good for me, and it was just a 50,000.
01;11;32;24 - 01;11;37;01
Big Al
I say that like it's not a lot of money, 50,000 a difference. It pay, I'm gone.
01;11;37;02 - 01;11;57;16
CJ
Listen, you had your chance. Oklahoma State offered you a bad. Texas offered you a bad deal. University of Houston offered you a bag. Oklahoma offer. You were. Hey, all these teams offered you a bag, and you were coming to a program that was second or third fiddle in the big eight conference, and you still came. Why don't you just take the money and go there?
01;11;57;18 - 01;11;59;24
Big Al
Because it was a principle based decision.
01;11;59;24 - 01;12;03;22
CJ
Well, how can these kids don't have the benefit of being principal based? Principally based.
01;12;03;25 - 01;12;10;21
Big Al
What are you what are you basing your personality on?
01;12;10;24 - 01;12;11;26
CJ
Can we talk about something else?
01;12;11;27 - 01;12;12;18
Big Al
Go ahead, let's go.
01;12;12;19 - 01;12;20;02
CJ
Because you didn't kind of piss me off, man. You over here belly act. I mean, just not care what C.J..
01;12;20;02 - 01;12;24;04
Big Al
Black hair.
01;12;24;07 - 01;12;30;02
CJ
College playoffs. Man. Did you have any problem with what went down? No. Notre Dame out.
01;12;30;02 - 01;12;40;03
Big Al
Oh, yeah. That's it. It there. Hey, look, if you if you bold enough to go into a postseason situation without an affiliation with the conference.
01;12;40;06 - 01;12;42;00
CJ
You're out. You just don't like Notre Dame.
01;12;42;01 - 01;12;55;18
Big Al
No, that's not it at all. I'm just saying, like, who are you to say?
01;12;55;21 - 01;13;14;23
Big Al
And you just get to pick and choose your teams as you see fit on a calendar? Nah, man. No. So if it was up to me, Notre Dame would have to join a conference and compete in the conference. And Notre Dame chooses not to do that in football, but in basketball and all the other sports. They'll do it then.
01;13;14;23 - 01;13;15;04
CJ
The ACC.
01;13;15;08 - 01;13;20;17
Big Al
Okay, but in football we're big enough to do this on our own. We're Notre Dame.
01;13;20;18 - 01;13;21;09
CJ
Well, look.
01;13;21;11 - 01;13;22;00
Big Al
You know every.
01;13;22;00 - 01;13;22;13
CJ
Year there's.
01;13;22;13 - 01;13;26;29
Big Al
Teams that I know what's up. You know what. You know the name. You know the hail what you did okay. Yeah.
01;13;26;29 - 01;13;27;26
CJ
Which I don't have a problem.
01;13;27;27 - 01;13;28;28
Big Al
I have no problem with that at all.
01;13;28;29 - 01;13;31;14
CJ
But I don't even think that's the big story of.
01;13;31;14 - 01;13;35;01
Big Al
And they lost to Miami head to head. So what are we talking about?
01;13;35;03 - 01;13;42;26
CJ
I don't even think that's the big story now the playoff, now the.
01;13;42;28 - 01;13;50;13
CJ
That's the three loss. They've lost three games. Now granted they made it to the SEC Championship game. And they get their asses handed to them.
01;13;50;13 - 01;13;55;04
Big Al
If they don't play in the SEC Championship game they don't have two loss. They only have three losses. They have two.
01;13;55;06 - 01;13;56;04
CJ
And do they.
01;13;56;04 - 01;14;31;02
Big Al
And so so it.
01;14;31;04 - 01;14;46;00
CJ
But every team in the SEC is which is not true. And I think it's a very top heavy conference. Great teams to be sure. But it's not you're not talking about every week it being a dogfight, the way the narrative is written about the SEC.
01;14;46;02 - 01;15;01;23
Big Al
So I'm just yeah, that's Georgia that's playing. And and in the playoffs okay. Let's talk about who's out. No no no let's talk about who's in this Georgia. Yeah okay. You got Ole Miss. You have Alabama.
01;15;02;00 - 01;15;03;25
CJ
Who's rounding should be in that. But go ahead.
01;15;04;00 - 01;15;10;18
Big Al
Okay. Is that three that that's three. Who's the four. Is there 14.
01;15;10;21 - 01;15;11;12
CJ
I don't think so.
01;15;11;16 - 01;15;15;17
Big Al
That that that that conference probably should have like if you would have told.
01;15;15;24 - 01;15;17;03
CJ
Me no you got A&M right.
01;15;17;08 - 01;15;32;24
Big Al
And and and m Texas A&M Texas. And so four teams Texas A&M A&M was undefeated going into that last game. And they would have been a representative of the SEC in the in the in the championship game. So you have 14.
01;15;32;26 - 01;15;35;21
Big Al
And this is not including Texas.
01;15;35;23 - 01;15;44;27
CJ
Yeah. It should include Texas. Yes. They shouldn't include that Texas okay. All right. So again that's that reputation stuff that once.
01;15;44;27 - 01;15;58;07
Big Al
Again once again we're going to disagree about this. The SEC represents the finest in football right now I'm not telling you they have the best team. But as far as a conference goes they have the finest conference. They all of.
01;15;58;07 - 01;16;01;04
CJ
Course they are one of the two top conferences in football.
01;16;01;06 - 01;16;03;15
Big Al
They're the best conference in college football.
01;16;03;17 - 01;16;06;07
CJ
All right. Listen I don't I won't necessarily argue.
01;16;06;07 - 01;16;49;22
Big Al
With Indiana and Ohio State set one and two. But
01;16;49;24 - 01;16;53;08
CJ
See her her.
01;16;53;10 - 01;16;54;18
Big Al
You know Bane from my.
01;16;54;18 - 01;16;56;09
CJ
Batman I.
01;16;56;09 - 01;16;59;17
Big Al
Love the anarchy.
01;16;59;19 - 01;17;01;00
CJ
Explain explain the anarchy.
01;17;01;03 - 01;17;20;27
Big Al
Oh my goodness man. Look there 12 teams that make it to the college football playoffs if you don't make it. So what. Whatever whatever now I mean and I knew this was going to happen, you know. But to see Notre Dame you know boo hoo and drop out to see Kansas State say, you know what.
01;17;21;00 - 01;17;23;02
Big Al
I'd like to get out of this and be over with.
01;17;23;10 - 01;17;25;13
CJ
And then this not accepting a bowl.
01;17;25;13 - 01;17;47;13
Big Al
Iowa State at eight and four, saying, never mind what we'd done with the season as well. I love it because it goes to show you, when you have a playoff system, the only thing that matters are getting to the playoffs. Everything is it's nonsense.
01;17;47;15 - 01;17;50;05
CJ
But I don't think that's the reason why.
01;17;50;07 - 01;17;53;09
Big Al
Here it is. If you can't win a championship, what are we doing?
01;17;53;09 - 01;17;56;16
CJ
We haven't seen teams bowl out. Bowl games before.
01;17;56;19 - 01;18;09;28
Big Al
You've never seen. You have never seen. I'm going to tell you what you haven't seen. You've never seen a team that was able to play in the 64 in college basketball. Say, I don't want a chance.
01;18;10;01 - 01;18;12;19
CJ
Well, because you're in the tournament. You're in the championship.
01;18;12;26 - 01;18;19;26
Big Al
Eventually. What I'm telling you is that we may get to 32 teams that are going to be part of happy.
01;18;19;28 - 01;18;23;12
CJ
Okay. 16, I think is the max number. If you go to 32 teams, hell.
01;18;23;14 - 01;18;26;21
Big Al
If you go 32, that means you cut out these conference championship games.
01;18;26;21 - 01;18;29;07
CJ
So that means you have to start the end, the beginning of November.
01;18;29;08 - 01;18;48;02
Big Al
No no no no no. All you have to do is cut out the conference championship games, okay. Cut out the conference championship games and then start the playoffs. Okay. Then we're right on schedule. It just takes one more week to get from 32 to 16. And then we we have what we want. That's the right way to look at it.
01;18;48;02 - 01;18;56;13
Big Al
Let's stop this. Like why is it number one in the, Ohio State play against number two Indiana? Nobody thought that was cool.
01;18;56;19 - 01;18;58;16
CJ
When, it's the conference championship game.
01;18;58;16 - 01;19;01;04
Big Al
What what does it determine?
01;19;01;07 - 01;19;03;16
CJ
It determines who wins the conference championship.
01;19;03;17 - 01;19;06;01
Big Al
Why does that matter?
01;19;06;03 - 01;19;08;11
CJ
Ask the teams in the universities, in the coaches.
01;19;08;11 - 01;19;11;28
Big Al
No, man. Listen, if you have if you have a top ranking.
01;19;11;28 - 01;19;14;03
CJ
Don't you get money for that game now.
01;19;14;03 - 01;19;15;00
Big Al
Man. And money.
01;19;15;03 - 01;19;19;01
CJ
You don't get money for participating in a conference championship on national TV. Yeah.
01;19;19;01 - 01;19;38;27
Big Al
Listen, listen, C.J., the bottom line is this. This is the bottom line. If you have two teams that are playing for your conference championship, chances are and you and and then in these big conferences, these powerful conferences, these teams are top ranked. Why do you need to knock one down? Raise one up.
01;19;38;29 - 01;19;41;23
CJ
You don't. It's just one more.
01;19;41;23 - 01;19;57;05
Big Al
Obstacle that like. So I'll give you an example Texas A&M okay Texas A&M loses to Texas at the end of the season. Yes okay Texas A&M is a top five team when they lose okay okay. You know what happened last week.
01;19;57;07 - 01;19;57;21
CJ
What happened.
01;19;57;23 - 01;19;59;23
Big Al
Texas A&M didn't play a football game.
01;19;59;23 - 01;20;00;22
CJ
Right.
01;20;00;24 - 01;20;03;12
Big Al
It was essentially a bye week.
01;20;03;15 - 01;20;04;03
CJ
Yes.
01;20;04;03 - 01;20;18;07
Big Al
Leading up to this week's play in game or play, playoff game that leads to the next round. Okay. So the way that I see this is that A&M did themselves a favor.
01;20;18;10 - 01;20;19;21
CJ
By not playing in the.
01;20;19;23 - 01;20;20;04
Big Al
Right.
01;20;20;04 - 01;20;21;00
CJ
Because you see champions.
01;20;21;01 - 01;20;21;25
Big Al
Because. Yes.
01;20;21;25 - 01;20;23;18
CJ
Because what do you think.
01;20;23;18 - 01;20;53;19
Big Al
What's my logical what's my logic here okay. Let's say Texas A&M plays Georgia in the SEC championship okay. They lose the game. They go home as one of the top seeds and plays another game. They don't get to enjoy a week off of playing football in between that next game and what they're dealing with right now. So they essentially got a bye bye losing.
01;20;53;22 - 01;21;03;15
Big Al
And now they have, a team that's fresher and more ready to go than a team that just lost in the SEC Championship. Like, Alabama.
01;21;03;16 - 01;21;06;24
CJ
Well, I think your logic doesn't really stand because.
01;21;06;24 - 01;21;07;18
Big Al
You know, it does.
01;21;07;19 - 01;21;16;10
CJ
Every every team gets a bye. The the playoffs doesn't they don't start this week. They start the following week.
01;21;16;10 - 01;21;17;20
Big Al
Okay. So two week by.
01;21;17;23 - 01;21;24;06
CJ
Is I don't even know if that's a benefit to have two weeks off okay. Before your game I don't know that it is.
01;21;24;08 - 01;21;25;09
Big Al
I thought it was no.
01;21;25;10 - 01;21;40;17
CJ
I think I think your point is I think your point is that how it impacts your ranking, right. If you if you are a team, let's take the ACC, for example, who play in an ACC championship game.
01;21;40;24 - 01;21;41;29
Big Al
Duke and Virginia.
01;21;42;03 - 01;21;48;13
CJ
A very mediocre Duke team who won the damn game. And they're still not in the tournament.
01;21;48;13 - 01;21;51;17
Big Al
Next year they will be there. Not this year, not this year.
01;21;51;18 - 01;21;51;27
CJ
Okay.
01;21;51;27 - 01;21;53;12
Big Al
So next year they will be.
01;21;53;12 - 01;21;55;08
CJ
So you're saying then.
01;21;55;10 - 01;22;01;08
Big Al
I love this anarchy. I just, you know, all this all of this is built behind greed.
01;22;01;11 - 01;22;02;03
CJ
Oh no question of.
01;22;02;03 - 01;22;03;13
Big Al
This is all built behind.
01;22;03;13 - 01;22;06;10
CJ
Greed. And they're trying to figure out a way to iron out.
01;22;06;14 - 01;22;16;24
Big Al
There is all of the way. The bowl games, the bowl games are the bowl games. You know, the bowl games. You have to look at the bowl games like they are.
01;22;16;24 - 01;22;19;07
CJ
The non-playoff bowl games.
01;22;19;09 - 01;22;30;23
Big Al
You have to look at the bowl games like they are playoff games, and then the games that don't have bowl game, I mean don't have playoff implications are irrelevant. Irrelevant.
01;22;30;23 - 01;22;49;19
CJ
And the reason and I tell you what, there's another data point that makes those games irrelevant. And it's the reason why I think and to your credit, you brought this point up. It's a reason why I think the Kansas State and Iowa State and some of the other teams are saying it doesn't behooves us to play a bowl game in late December.
01;22;49;19 - 01;22;50;08
CJ
Oh, that's.
01;22;50;10 - 01;22;52;10
Big Al
The middle part of January.
01;22;52;11 - 01;22;55;06
CJ
How about how about that's even worse? Because you mean for January.
01;22;55;08 - 01;22;55;28
Big Al
You can't tell.
01;22;55;28 - 01;23;13;04
CJ
Them why you can't play because the transfer portal opens up January 2nd. So how the hell do you prepare to play a game in the middle part of January, or even in the late part of December, when you don't even know the composition of your team? Who's coming, who's gone? It's it's literally.
01;23;13;07 - 01;23;13;27
Big Al
Anarchy.
01;23;13;27 - 01;23;24;14
CJ
A structural it's structurally anarchist, right. It's a mess. And so you're right, you got teams that are saying, hey, I if I'm playing in a bowl game, I want to play December 12th.
01;23;24;17 - 01;23;25;03
Big Al
Yes.
01;23;25;03 - 01;23;37;19
CJ
Because anything after that, it jeopardizes my ability to maximize on what I could get or what I might lose, minimize what I might lose in the transfer portal that is right on the horizon.
01;23;37;19 - 01;23;38;07
Big Al
Yes.
01;23;38;07 - 01;23;52;11
CJ
So I agree with that, man. I think it's a complete mess. I don't know why the NCAA didn't forecast this as being a problem, but you got good teams out there that are saying I don't necessarily want to participate if I'm not in the tournament.
01;23;52;14 - 01;24;08;07
Big Al
To win it all or if I am playing in a bowl game situation, I want this game over with. But but before Christmas, I want this game over with before Christmas because I want to go into the portal knowing what I have or don't have.
01;24;08;08 - 01;24;21;07
CJ
That's exactly right. Now, before we get out of here, man, the National Football League I think has egg all over its face. I think the Cleveland Browns have egg all over this.
01;24;21;09 - 01;24;23;17
Big Al
They should do a Sanders story, bro.
01;24;23;19 - 01;24;24;29
CJ
I don't know if the I didn't write this.
01;24;25;01 - 01;24;26;18
Big Al
Is this is this is this what we're doing?
01;24;26;18 - 01;24;42;01
CJ
I didn't write the story. A rookie quarterback who had the best outing, a guy who you said and others was a fifth round draft pick, picked all kinds of mediocre quarterbacks over them. In fact, went to a team that had picked a guy I didn't say that. Can't play this round.
01;24;42;01 - 01;24;42;16
Big Al
Quarterback.
01;24;42;17 - 01;24;44;10
CJ
On me, man. Allow me, allow me.
01;24;44;13 - 01;24;51;29
Big Al
Man. I care about the Broncos, bro. What is what is this? What is this? What are you doing? You're doing Cleveland Browns talk.
01;24;51;29 - 01;24;55;03
CJ
Yeah. It's one of the hottest stories in in football.
01;24;55;05 - 01;24;56;14
Big Al
What what makes it hot.
01;24;56;15 - 01;25;03;08
CJ
Because he's one of the most notable stories in football. You might not like it. I understand you're I'm taking.
01;25;03;08 - 01;25;11;19
Big Al
Bo Nix over. Should do a sanders. What you want me to say? The bo next story is a better story than to do a Sanders story.
01;25;11;19 - 01;25;12;24
CJ
What's the next story?
01;25;12;26 - 01;25;14;16
Big Al
The Broncos are 11 and two.
01;25;14;18 - 01;25;15;09
CJ
Okay, so that's.
01;25;15;09 - 01;25;16;21
Big Al
The that's the Bo next story.
01;25;16;21 - 01;25;19;07
CJ
Okay. So then we talked about Bo Nix. We already talked.
01;25;19;07 - 01;25;22;16
Big Al
About. So why do we have to talk about. You want to talk about cam. What.
01;25;22;19 - 01;25;23;06
CJ
No I think.
01;25;23;06 - 01;25;24;07
Big Al
So what do you want to talk.
01;25;24;07 - 01;25;24;22
CJ
About.
01;25;24;24 - 01;25;26;05
Big Al
Oh I mean.
01;25;26;07 - 01;25;31;13
CJ
So the cam what win the game. The Tennessee Titans won the game okay.
01;25;31;13 - 01;25;33;01
Big Al
Then you won't talk about cam.
01;25;33;03 - 01;25;33;29
CJ
No.
01;25;34;01 - 01;25;35;24
Big Al
Because then makes you want to talk about it because.
01;25;35;24 - 01;25;41;25
CJ
There's because there's relevance to me about your door. You might feel a different way.
01;25;41;28 - 01;25;46;06
Big Al
Are you going to say once again he was better than a fifth round draft pick?
01;25;46;06 - 01;25;47;18
CJ
No. What I want what here's what I want to.
01;25;47;18 - 01;25;52;10
Big Al
Say, because I'll tell you, everybody knows that. I don't say really clearly.
01;25;52;10 - 01;25;53;08
CJ
Not everybody say.
01;25;53;09 - 01;25;55;27
Big Al
I'll say that 10,000 times.
01;25;55;27 - 01;25;57;02
CJ
Clearly not everyone knew that.
01;25;57;02 - 01;26;00;29
Big Al
Everybody knows he's better than a fifth round quarterback. So what is?
01;26;00;29 - 01;26;01;18
CJ
Not everyone.
01;26;01;18 - 01;26;03;09
Big Al
Knew that. Why? You want to bring up your door?
01;26;03;11 - 01;26;23;22
CJ
Because like I've said from day one, I thought it was heartbreaking to see a Colorado buffalo, which you give no credence to, to see a Colorado buffalo humiliated the way that he was on draft day in the world, trying to tell me, including you, that this guy was just the fifth round draft pick. I did not my eyes did not lie to me.
01;26;23;22 - 01;26;41;27
CJ
I knew better than that in the world knew better than that. And it's playing out in high definition right now. It was insulting to tell me that Dylan Gabriel was a better quarterback, and for over half a season, you don't give this guy the opportunity to compete, and then you go out there and now people, he goes out there, he throws.
01;26;41;27 - 01;26;53;03
CJ
So he has the best outing of any rookie quarterback in the league this year. And we're still talking about this guy as if he's maybe even you don't even want to talk about it. I don't know why you don't even when talk about.
01;26;53;04 - 01;26;54;24
Big Al
It's the Cleveland Browns.
01;26;54;24 - 01;26;57;29
CJ
It's shadow Sanders. I don't care what team he played for.
01;26;58;04 - 01;27;07;05
Big Al
The fact how many times have we talked about this year? Travis Hunter we haven't talked about Travis Hunter at all. But you want to talk about you do it.
01;27;07;08 - 01;27;10;19
CJ
Because Travis wasn't humiliated with being he was a pick.
01;27;10;19 - 01;27;10;25
Big Al
In the.
01;27;10;25 - 01;27;13;04
CJ
Draft. Is that humiliating? No, I'm just.
01;27;13;04 - 01;27;15;10
Big Al
Saying we.
01;27;15;12 - 01;27;16;29
CJ
Like. What are you. I don't give.
01;27;17;02 - 01;27;19;18
Big Al
This man what's going on? What do you think there's. I think there's.
01;27;19;25 - 01;27;23;20
CJ
Yes, a story. It's a story whether you like it or not. It's a story.
01;27;23;20 - 01;27;24;18
Big Al
The story is.
01;27;24;18 - 01;27;25;01
CJ
I don't get.
01;27;25;01 - 01;27;29;07
Big Al
I'm guessing this is the league. This year has been happening like this for decades.
01;27;29;11 - 01;27;44;05
CJ
Who? Give me one. For what? Give me one where a first round projected quarterback ends up in the fifth round. It's been happening for decades. Give me an example. You're silent because you can't. So it's an unusual story that is significant.
01;27;44;09 - 01;27;46;05
Big Al
Where Aaron Rodgers was drafted, he.
01;27;46;05 - 01;27;47;19
CJ
Was drafted like in the 20s.
01;27;47;21 - 01;27;53;20
Big Al
First round way way, way late.
01;27;53;22 - 01;27;59;10
CJ
Come on man, you can't do it because it hasn't happened. And what I'm saying is.
01;27;59;10 - 01;28;01;22
Big Al
So you say Mr. Sanders was a first round draft pick?
01;28;01;24 - 01;28;10;09
CJ
Absolutely. I thought he was the best quarterback in the draft. And I said that at the time. I've actually watched the kid play. I watched him go through the trials and tribulations.
01;28;10;10 - 01;28;12;03
Big Al
I like cam Ward over us should do it.
01;28;12;05 - 01;28;13;22
CJ
That's fine. And that's, that's, that's the.
01;28;13;22 - 01;28;28;07
Big Al
But I thought the kid was I thought if I needed a quarterback, then just look looking at just there, there's a lot that goes with draft as Sanders put on. This is what I'm putting. I'll tell you this. You know.
01;28;28;10 - 01;28;29;21
CJ
I'm going to bring up all those talking.
01;28;29;21 - 01;28;33;24
Big Al
Points, telling you there's more to it. All the best.
01;28;33;28 - 01;28;53;22
CJ
Teams who needed quarterbacks to pass over this guy. And you know what? To hell with them. I hope they go winless for doing whatever they did to this guy. It was ridiculous. And I think the chickens are coming home to roost right now because he saw not only is he a competent quarterback, I think he might end up being good.
01;28;53;22 - 01;28;54;29
CJ
Yeah, but you get what I said.
01;28;54;29 - 01;28;56;24
Big Al
Go. And he was a fifth. Got all that said go.
01;28;56;24 - 01;29;03;07
CJ
You know what goes with it being just being the best quarterback in this draft class. I think that's what he is. And so you can talk to me.
01;29;03;07 - 01;29;11;07
Big Al
Have these conversations early in the year about all of the things that exist away from football that detracts from what's happening with and.
01;29;11;13 - 01;29;11;24
CJ
And.
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Big Al
Some organizations just don't.
01;29;13;20 - 01;29;17;25
CJ
Want I got it. And you contributed to a narrative. I don't I'm not trimming it.
01;29;17;28 - 01;29;19;18
Big Al
I'm just telling you the truth. This is.
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CJ
The narrative that painted the young man as something that he's not what he is, what.
01;29;24;04 - 01;29;31;18
Big Al
He is not what what what is he? What is he not he's not a it's not superstar. Is he an internet superstar in.
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CJ
An age of AI and the internet, you guys is a young man for being an internet superstar. Are you kidding.
01;29;37;24 - 01;29;40;25
Big Al
Me? In the in terms of the NFL? Yes.
01;29;40;25 - 01;29;43;19
CJ
Let me tell you what he is. Yes yes, yes he is.
01;29;43;19 - 01;29;57;20
Big Al
Maybe the hot you know, you know, one of the reasons I figured this out, one of the reasons that teams may not have wanted to take a chance on Russell Wilson is because he is one of the hottest internet superstars.
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CJ
It's not just because he's old and can't play anymore.
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Big Al
I'm just telling you, I'm just. Listen. C.J. C.J. What comes with Russell Wilson is his whole social media campaign.
01;30;07;15 - 01;30;14;00
CJ
And you know what, al? When you're old and can't play, that becomes a factor. That's not. But when you're.
01;30;14;00 - 01;30;19;09
Big Al
Young and you can't play, you want the internet sensation that is also a good football.
01;30;19;09 - 01;30;21;09
CJ
Player. What is your deal, man? I'm just.
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Big Al
Telling you.
01;30;22;05 - 01;30;24;12
CJ
The guy is a hard working, diligent.
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Big Al
Yes, there's a huge following. Oh, God, am I.
01;30;30;22 - 01;30;35;06
CJ
Wrong? Yes. You're wrong that that's why. Is that relevant.
01;30;35;06 - 01;30;46;20
Big Al
To comment somebody please send comments to the contrary. He's a huge internet superstar. Teams don't in the NFL don't necessarily like that.
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CJ
What does that say about the NFL?
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Big Al
That it says that the NFL is not in, internet superstar business?
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CJ
The NFL is in the business of making money, of getting every bit of attention that it can because they schedule things throughout the course of the year. There's no offseason in the NFL. You're going to sit and tell me they're not in the business of what.
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Big Al
They're not in the business of employing superstar internet quarterbacks.
01;31;14;25 - 01;31;29;06
CJ
That's a new you just made up a line that never I've never heard before until just now. Now all of a sudden, if you happen to be a very popular internet superstar, you are going to get screwed by the National Football League because of market market.
01;31;29;06 - 01;31;46;08
Big Al
No team mark that. Whatever the day is, Mark that right now, if you are a internet superstar that is playing, planning to play in the NFL, you weep. You will be mocked for being an internet superstar. You will be docked for that.
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CJ
What was your worst game in the National Football League?
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Big Al
My first one.
01;31;49;27 - 01;31;57;27
CJ
This is this episode of this show is very similar to your outcome and your first game in the National I five sacks.
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Big Al
And, we won the game by 20.
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CJ
Well, you missed five tackles and you lost in a blowout. I'm sick of talking to you. And with that, that does it for to be. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, see?
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Big Al
What's that? Oh, man. Hey, the devil man.
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CJ
Man. Amen. Thanks for tuning in to Big Al and C.J. Podcast will highlights you next week.